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Posted 2013-09-14 2:38 PM (#474935 - in reply to #474933)
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darkbarguitar - 2013-09-14 2:35 PM

I've managed to annoy you, which was my only goal. Hooray me!!!!


Okie dokie.
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Darkbar
Posted 2013-09-14 2:43 PM (#474936 - in reply to #474576)
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See....hehehe

AND I've taken your mind off your boring, useless, and idiotic challenges and assertions. We're ALL winners here....
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gmaslin
Posted 2013-09-14 2:47 PM (#474937 - in reply to #474576)
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Never mud wrestle a pig, you just end up dirty and the pig will enjoy it more than you.
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Darkbar
Posted 2013-09-14 2:55 PM (#474938 - in reply to #474576)
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Uh oh. Tag team from the butt buddies
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Guitar
Posted 2013-09-14 3:01 PM (#474939 - in reply to #474938)
Subject: Re: so sad


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^ This thread is rapidly arriving at the point where it probably just needs to be put out of its misery. ^
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Darkbar
Posted 2013-09-14 3:05 PM (#474940 - in reply to #474939)
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Thank the Lord. (glad I could do my part)
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FlySig
Posted 2013-09-14 3:40 PM (#474949 - in reply to #474932)
Subject: Re: so sad



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I sincerely believe we are dealing with Communists or the mentally ill. My coffee is getting cold, and there's a partially completed guitar case (for the ePap12 from MWoody) needing my attentions in the workshop. I'm out.

Edited by FlySig 2013-09-14 3:44 PM
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Darkbar
Posted 2013-09-14 3:43 PM (#474951 - in reply to #474576)
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Oh no. You just fed the two trolls chocolate cake....
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2013-09-14 3:52 PM (#474952 - in reply to #474934)
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AstroDan - 2013-09-14 12:36 PM

arthurseery - 2013-09-13 6:08 PM
AstroDan - 2013-09-13 3:25 PM I'm going to dump the over-priced, crappy American-made O's I own and get me a quantity of imports.
I'll trade you a FINE Chinese Cedar-topped Contour Bowl Celebrity for that crappy '07C you've got.

 

This post is useless without pics...

 

 

Note*** Sounds/plays/feels etc no better than anything else, really~!

Okay...

BTW-- This actually sounds pretty good for what it is. It's the Cedar.
And looking at this photo... I sold that BC Rich Eagle Deluxe... DAMN I'm stupid sometimes.
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Designzilla
Posted 2013-09-15 8:29 AM (#474983 - in reply to #474576)
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Okay folks, let's move along, nothing more to read here that wasn't in the first three pages. Even the mindless insults are becoming tedious.

CLICK
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alpep
Posted 2013-09-15 3:08 PM (#474993 - in reply to #474576)
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sooo
guitar LOL

who are you?
you say you are from chicago but your IP is in st augustine

obviously you are someone I banned before that just can't keep their nose out of the OFC
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Darkbar
Posted 2013-09-15 3:26 PM (#474996 - in reply to #474576)
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Al, his website (if Fingerstyleguitarists.com really IS his website) is addressed on 9 W. Washington St, Chicago. But who knows? FWIW, it's not a very well done or very popular site....
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2013-09-15 9:47 PM (#475012 - in reply to #474576)
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Glad I was having fun this weekend while you were fighting. It was also nice to see many old friends are still around.
Other than that, I don't see any reason to trust Guitar with a bet, much less $10,000. As for that, why not make a bet someone might be willing and able to take? Probably because you thought no one would accept a $10,000 bet with a stranger, but might take something more reasonable. Bobbo's counteroffer was to put the money in escrow. If you didn't like his counter, you could counter back.
But to your original point, without all the insults, I've had a Celebrity that sounded better than a USA made Ovation and cheaper US Ovations that sound better than more expensive Ovations. I've also played some cheap guitars that sounded better than more expensive guitars. And I've played a $15,000 guitar that wasn't impressive to me, before I knew the price. Learning it didn't change my opinion. So, I agree with some of your points, but so what?
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gmaslin
Posted 2013-09-16 6:40 AM (#475022 - in reply to #474576)
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Mark in Boise
I believe 'Guitar' is out to prove people who fetish instruments, or any other material thing, delude themselves that more money spent necessitates a better outcome. He is forcing people to individually assess the real nature of value and quality of what they own or intend to own. This has important societal implications.
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Darkbar
Posted 2013-09-16 6:43 AM (#475023 - in reply to #474576)
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There he is again....speaking for Guitar. Very strange???
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Waskel
Posted 2013-09-16 8:11 AM (#475027 - in reply to #475023)
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darkbarguitar - 2013-09-16 4:43 AM

There he is again


She, apparently. Right, Gina?
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gmaslin
Posted 2013-09-16 9:05 AM (#475029 - in reply to #474576)
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Yes Waskel, you 'apparently' were the only one to look and see for yourself. People get nice surprises when they don't blindly accept what everyone else thinks
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G8r
Posted 2013-09-16 9:53 AM (#475032 - in reply to #474576)
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Guitar/gmaslin, this has been the most entertaining thing I've read here in years.

Carry on.
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Darkbar
Posted 2013-09-16 9:56 AM (#475033 - in reply to #474576)
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Whatever....it's interesting how gmaslin's 1st post AND Guitar's coming out post (after 2 or 3 years, who really cares?) are the EXACT same date!!???
Coincidence? Hardly.
"We are in the same camp"-gmaslin
Maybe even in the same tent.....

Edited by BobG 2013-09-16 9:59 AM
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Darkbar
Posted 2013-09-16 9:57 AM (#475034 - in reply to #475033)
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Oops, and notice how gmaslin AND Guitar both use apostrophes instead of quotation marks. They are either both the same person, or both dummies.

Edited by BobG 2013-09-16 10:01 AM
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2013-09-16 10:19 AM (#475036 - in reply to #475022)
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gmaslin - 2013-09-16 5:40 AM

Mark in Boise
I believe 'Guitar' is out to prove people who fetish instruments, or any other material thing, delude themselves that more money spent necessitates a better outcome. He is forcing people to individually assess the real nature of value and quality of what they own or intend to own. This has important societal implications.

I understand and I agree to some extent. I could do without the insults and the "I'll bet you a million dollars" type of immature arguments. I assume he's playing devil's advocate and he successfully stirred up the pot of Ovation Fans that's been fairly still for years and I am thankful that it brought out several of the old regulars. I hope he could have accomplished the same thing without being so abrasive. Perhaps he was offended by Waskel suggesting he was a politician, or worse, a lawyer.
Back on topic, if I recall it, I had one personal experience in which a Celebrity sounded better than a comparable USA made Ovation. I bought a Celebrity Deluxe because I didn't know what I was doing with guitars or ebay. I took advantage of a similar situation by trading it and some cash for a 99 Collector, probably the most beautiful guitar I ever owned. Both mid-bowl, multihole cutaways. When I played the 99, it didn't sound as good to me as the CD, but I assumed it had dead strings. Years later, a Berklee trained guitar player tried it and several others of my Ovations and recorded identical clips. He swore the 99 sounded best on the recording, but I couldn't hear a difference. He didn't identify which guitar was recorded and I couldn't tell. They all sounded the same to me. He bought the 99 from me and later admitted that his ears may have been influenced by his eyes. Music, like any art, is very subjective. There just aren't any bright lines or absolute truths, except that rap sucks.
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MWoody
Posted 2013-09-16 10:55 AM (#475039 - in reply to #474576)
Subject: Re: so sad



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Some time back I decided that I would be an Ovation Geek in lieu of being a Snob. Snobs have to defend themselves, Geeks just get to enjoy...



Edited by MWoody 2013-09-16 10:58 AM
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SOBeach
Posted 2013-09-16 11:55 AM (#475041 - in reply to #475039)
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MWoody - Snobs have to defend themselves, Geeks just get to enjoy...

 [like button] click, click!  

 

LOL Honestly, who the heck (other than me) should care one iota what I might or might not think I can hear or how much I choose to pay for a guitar, a plectrum (or anything else)?  It's my friggin' hobby and my friggin money!  Frankly, I can't tell how expensive a guitar is just by listening to it, but trying to prove or disprove whether someone else who claims they can is (imho) a ludicrous endeavor. And to get into an argument about it is even sillier. Akin to elementary school kids arguing about who can pee further. 

 

 

 

Done bitchin', gonna go do some pickin'.

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SOBeach
Posted 2013-09-16 11:55 AM (#475042 - in reply to #475039)
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MWoody - Snobs have to defend themselves, Geeks just get to enjoy...

 [like button] click, click!  

 

LOL Honestly, who the heck (other than me) should care one iota what I might or might not think I can hear or how much I choose to pay for a guitar, a plectrum (or anything else)?  It's my friggin' hobby and my friggin money!  Frankly, I can't tell how expensive a guitar is just by listening to it, but trying to prove or disprove whether someone else who claims they can is (imho) a ludicrous endeavor. And to get into an argument about it is even sillier. Akin to elementary school kids arguing about who can pee further. 

 

 

 

Done bitchin', gonna go do some pickin'.

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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2013-09-16 11:55 AM (#475043 - in reply to #474576)
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This thread is closed. I may re-open it or move the Ovation Guitar bits into the new thread that will inevitably start, but you all know the rules..

If one person insults another... the MODERATORS deal with it. Once you "insult them back" like you're in elementary school then YOU are just as guilty. However, I was out of town... and I'm busy the next couple of days... I have to review all this nonsense.
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