nerdydave - How does one determine what model number the Ovation cases are? um, consult a psychic??? If there's an actual number on 'em somewhere, it's well hidden! Regarding old brown cases, I have two, one came with my 1617 bought new, the other came with my 1667 bought used, they are two different style cases though. Both have the same deep depth, but the 1617s case (circa early-mid 70s) is smaller in width and length. It also has a (decorative) black band around the aluminum edge were the latches are. The 1667s case (circa early 80s) is the same size as the black cases from the later models I have. It does not have that band around the outside. Again, both cases are for deep bowls but the inside padding has different indentations molded into it that correspond with the different locations of the volume / tone control knobs on the two guitars. One is forward on the upper bout while the other is on the back bout near the waist. As slight as these two differences may seem the two guitars won't fit in each other's case. But I guess if you absolutely had to you could "modify" (aka crush) the padding and make 'em fit. No point here either... just my own observations ...and the case code conundrum continues
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