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MeredithI
Posted 2013-05-11 9:25 PM (#470402)
Subject: rattling guts



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Location: New Bern, NC

My Custom Elite has been at my local music store for two weeks.  Today I spoke to the repair man who showed me all the potential places inside my guitar that could be creating the buzz when I hit my D string.  From what he showed me there are MANY potential electronic things inside my guitar that could be buzzing.  He has taken out and reinstalled an electronic part near the output jack on the back side that has reduced the buzz, but it's still not completely gone.  He's going to install a thin piece of leather between this electronic piece and the guitar to see if this eliminates the buzzing, but he said this will be trial and error.  He said that years ago he did install a thin rubber gasket around the preamp in an Ovation that the Ovation company sent him, but putting it in was difficult because the space could barely accomodate it.  He said Ovation began making the thin rubber gaskets to retrofit instruments when they realized the buzzing problem from all the calls they received about the problem.  

I'm not sure what to do.  I told the guy to go ahead with the plan to put the leather around that electronic part near the jack and we'll see if that does the trick.  If he has to put the rubber gasket around the preamp that's going to be complicated for him to install.

He also showed me that one of the braces under the top was between the top and the block under the fingerboard.  Consequently, you can get more than a fingernail between the fingerboard and the top.  This is hard to explain and looks confusing as I read what I've written.  

Botton line:  There are LOTS of reasosn why the D string on my Custom Elite is creating a buzz.  And it's going to take trial and error to find out what it is.

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dvd
Posted 2013-05-11 10:20 PM (#470403 - in reply to #470402)
Subject: Re: rattling guts



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Location: Central Massachusetts
The floating fretboard on your LX is by design. It's meant to allow the top vibrate more freely.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2013-05-12 1:08 AM (#470404 - in reply to #470402)
Subject: Re: rattling guts



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Location: Sydney, Australia
Take the whole preamp out and see if that fixes it.
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muzza
Posted 2013-05-12 6:08 AM (#470405 - in reply to #470402)
Subject: Re: rattling guts



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Location: Sunshine State, Australia
I've just come home from a night out and I've got rattling guts too.

My guitar's fine tho'.
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Darkbar
Posted 2013-05-12 6:43 AM (#470406 - in reply to #470402)
Subject: Re: rattling guts



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Location: Flahdaw
I thought this was a thread about Taco Bell
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DanSavage
Posted 2013-05-12 4:42 PM (#470411 - in reply to #470404)
Subject: Re: rattling guts



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Location: Pueblo West, CO
richard.parker - 2013-05-11 11:08 PM

Take the whole preamp out and see if that fixes it.


I'd go one step further and remove not only the preamp, but also the can and the jack.

I'd also remove the backdoor and reach in to see if any of I can wiggle any of the braces.

I'd also slip a piece of paper between the fretboard and the top to see if that's where the buzzing is originating.

Meredith,
I know he probably did this, but did your luthier check all the tuners to make sure the nuts on the front and the screws on the back are tight?



Edited by DanSavage 2013-05-12 4:43 PM
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TAFKAR
Posted 2013-05-12 7:11 PM (#470413 - in reply to #470402)
Subject: Re: rattling guts



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Location: Sydney, Australia
Good point. That was what I meant (but not what I said). It can also be one of the wires inside the guitar - the little guide that holds them together can come unstuck from the bowl and cause vibration.
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AstroDan
Posted 2013-05-13 10:50 AM (#470425 - in reply to #470403)
Subject: Re: rattling guts


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Location: Suisun City, Ca

dvd - 2013-05-11 10:20 PM The floating fretboard on your LX is by design. It's meant to allow the top vibrate more freely.

My CE's (Just like M's) fretboard is attached to top, I think. Should there be a gap? I will check when I get home tonight. It's not like the 1537 fretboard at all...

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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2013-05-13 3:32 PM (#470427 - in reply to #470402)
Subject: Re: rattling guts


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Location: Hot Springs, S.D.
I had a mystery rattle in an old Adamas I used to have. It turned out to be the jack. Everything seemed tight on the outside, but it was rattling on the inside. A thin piece of felt took care of the problem.
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