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laocmo
Posted 2013-04-11 10:14 AM (#469465)
Subject: Ovation without pre-amp?


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I lucked into a couple of almost new Ovation pre-amps an OP-Pro and an iDea for next to nothing. Thought I would eventually resell them. But got to wondering if an Ovation guitar can be bought sans pre-amp? If so, I might keep them. How does one go about it? Thanks
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jay
Posted 2013-04-11 10:50 AM (#469466 - in reply to #469465)
Subject: Re: Ovation without pre-amp?



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Location: Texas		Many of the older models were sold with/and without preamps. So with an acoustic only, my guess would be you would have to do a re-routing of the bridge for the piezo and the bowl for the pre-amp and drill a hole for the jack. TaaDaa (is it two a's or one a?)

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SOBeach
Posted 2013-04-11 2:31 PM (#469475 - in reply to #469465)
Subject: RE: Ovation without pre-amp?


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^^ What jay said ^^

 

The "original" Ovation piezo pickups are wider than the acoustic-only saddle slots.

Maybe the thinner "Slimline" piezo pickups might fit??  IDK

 

(jay - pretty sure it's 2 a's)  BaaDaaBing! 

 

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laocmo
Posted 2013-04-11 4:39 PM (#469480 - in reply to #469465)
Subject: Re: Ovation without pre-amp?


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I didn't make myself very clear. I do not want a pure acoustic to modify. I want a newer modern Ovation acoustic/electric with the hole and mounting hardware but with no preamp. I have two of my own that I could use. Anyone ever hear of buying one that way?
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jay
Posted 2013-04-11 5:00 PM (#469482 - in reply to #469480)
Subject: Re: Ovation without pre-amp?



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no...not really. Even though they are made overseas, folks have yet to start scrapping the guitar for the pre-amp.

 

 

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TAFKAR
Posted 2013-04-11 7:19 PM (#469490 - in reply to #469480)
Subject: Re: Ovation without pre-amp?



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laocmo - 2013-04-12 9:39 AM

I didn't make myself very clear. I do not want a pure acoustic to modify. I want a newer modern Ovation acoustic/electric with the hole and mounting hardware but with no preamp. I have two of my own that I could use. Anyone ever hear of buying one that way?


Unlikely. If the guitar gets irretrievably damaged, someone might plunder the preamp and tuners before throwing it in the bin, so there are a few spare preamps floating around. These are likely to be bought by people who have a serviceable guitar where the preamp has gone on the fritz.
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seesquare
Posted 2013-04-12 2:33 PM (#469505 - in reply to #469465)
Subject: Re: Ovation without pre-amp?


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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire		If you want to repair an instrument, that has already been stripped, there are a few merchants on EBay that regularly offer those crippled critters.
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d'ovation
Posted 2013-04-12 2:49 PM (#469508 - in reply to #469480)
Subject: Re: Ovation without pre-amp?


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laocmo - 2013-04-11 4:39 PM

I didn't make myself very clear. I do not want a pure acoustic to modify. I want a newer modern Ovation acoustic/electric with the hole and mounting hardware but with no preamp. I have two of my own that I could use. Anyone ever hear of buying one that way?


There are many of these cheaply available, but they tend to lack much more than just the pre-amp. Just go to ebay and search for "ovation project", e.g.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ovation-Elite-TX-2078TX-5-A-E-Guitar-Projec...
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2013-04-12 6:25 PM (#469514 - in reply to #469465)
Subject: RE: Ovation without pre-amp?



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laocmo - 2013-04-11 8:14 AM

I lucked into a couple of almost new Ovation pre-amps an OP-Pro and an iDea for next to nothing. Thought I would eventually resell them. But got to wondering if an Ovation guitar can be bought sans pre-amp? If so, I might keep them. How does one go about it? Thanks

Quick answer... NO, Ovation/Kaman/Fender is not gonna sell you a New instrument that way.
You may find a Used instrument like that... But that is it.
On those stripped models... the missing preamp would be the least of it's problems.
Those sellers wouldn't have stripped them if the guitar was worth something intact.
(the action probably suct anyway, so it was worth more in parts since you can't reset the neck)
There is a possibility that you might find a store that has an Ovation that someone stole the module from, but this would still be considered a Used guitar.

I have an iDea module... It will fit in an OP-Pro can, so I can switch if I am so inclined.
I also have a Studio and a VIP... Same thing, I can use them in another guitar if I want.
If you have an OP-Pro module and an iDea module I would just look for a good guitar with an OP-Pro in it already... That way you can use the iDea in it and have a spare OP-Pro... for whatever.

BTW-- A "standard" OP-Pro will NOT work in an iDea can... But and iDea WILL work in an OP-Pro can.
go figure
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seesquare
Posted 2013-04-13 8:34 AM (#469531 - in reply to #469465)
Subject: Re: Ovation without pre-amp?


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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire		That's another "wrinkle", of Murphy's Law:
"Interchangeable Parts Don't"
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MWoody
Posted 2013-04-13 10:44 AM (#469533 - in reply to #469465)
Subject: Re: Ovation without pre-amp?



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Location: Upper Left USA		So...

Keep the back up Preamps for later use as replacements
or
Wait and watch (with about a dozen or so of the BFLG) for a nice pre-ampless guitar to show up
or
Resale the preamps when an OFCer has the need

I have cut and installed OP cans and preamps into 1615s and 1617s which works fairly well.
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FlySig
Posted 2013-04-14 11:46 AM (#469564 - in reply to #469465)
Subject: Re: Ovation without pre-amp?



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Location: Utah		Check out the thread on the FD-14. It has the pickup but no preamp. Carefully use a template to hand cut the kidney shaped hole for the can, drop in the OpPro. Instant perfection.

http://www.ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=34...

Edited by FlySig 2013-04-14 11:47 AM
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