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Little Ugly

Posted 2013-03-11 8:14 AM (#468244)
Subject: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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Just curious if anyone has ditched the rosette on their Ovations for a more traditional pickguard. It's a mod I've thought about doing, but thought I'd ask here first, and see if anyone had any pics. I couldn't find any threads on the topic, so I figured I'd make a new one.

FlySig

Posted 2013-03-11 9:13 AM (#468245 - in reply to #468244)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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Just my opinion, but it would be a Little Ugly to do that to an O!!!

I don't have a problem with my guitars getting scraped by a pick or fingernails so to me there is no utility in putting on a pick guard. I suppose in theory the added mass and stiffness of a pickguard would affect the ability of the top to vibrate as freely. Whether one could hear the difference is another issue entirely. So my vote is no, but on the other hand it is your guitar and you should do what pleases you.

I refinished the stock on a WWII rifle because I use the darn thing for long range competitions. I know the purists have a heart attack over something like that, but I sure feel good about how it looks and feels to me. So no, don't let others' tell you what is right or wrong to do with your guitar.

But still, I wouldn't do it.

Darkbar

Posted 2013-03-11 10:46 AM (#468248 - in reply to #468244)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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It would look really weird on an Elite....

SOBeach

Posted 2013-03-11 12:32 PM (#468249 - in reply to #468244)
Subject: RE: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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Have ya seen those static cling ones? Clear, flexible, removable, and maybe... just a Little less Ugly?

caveats - I read they cling better to glossy finishes than to matte finishes, and they might discolor nitrocellulose finishes if left on for too long. ??

Old Man Arthur

Posted 2013-03-11 1:26 PM (#468250 - in reply to #468249)
Subject: RE: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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SOBeach - 2013-03-11 10:32 AM

Have ya seen those static cling ones? Clear, flexible, removable, and maybe... just a Little less Ugly?

caveats - I read they cling better to glossy finishes than to matte finishes, and they might discolor nitrocellulose finishes if left on for too long. ??

For those you can visit http://www.dscustom.com/US%20Order%20Page.htm
I have used them... Just take them off when you are storing the guitar... ez-on/ez-off

TAFKAR

Posted 2013-03-11 7:44 PM (#468260 - in reply to #468244)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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When I first took up guitar I had a rather nasty attack style with my pick and scratched the bejesus out of my legend 1117, so I had a clear pickguard professionally installed. I couldn't hear any difference in how it sounded (and it still sounds great 30 years later).

javaman

Posted 2013-03-11 8:31 PM (#468261 - in reply to #468244)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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I saw two used shallow bowled O's at a guitar center with pick guards on them. I did a double take when I first saw them. It was a turn off to me, but they were both USA"s with a price of around $500.00. Then next time I stopped in they were both gone, so they must have appealed to someone.

Nick B.

Posted 2013-03-11 9:53 PM (#468262 - in reply to #468244)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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LU,
I'd do a little research before pulling a rosette off of an Ovation. If you remove it you will find a slightly over-sized soundhole that isn't finished around the edge (take a mirror and look at the back side of the rosette). Just say'in.

Little Ugly

Posted 2013-03-12 9:07 AM (#468265 - in reply to #468262)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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nickbtx - 2013-03-11 10:53 PM

LU,
I'd do a little research before pulling a rosette off of an Ovation. If you remove it you will find a slightly over-sized soundhole that isn't finished around the edge (take a mirror and look at the back side of the rosette). Just say'in.

Duly noted. I was just curious...since the rosette on mine is cracked, and the bottom half is lifting off, I was looking for some good alternatives.

DanSavage

Posted 2013-03-12 2:17 PM (#468267 - in reply to #468265)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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If the rosette is lifting off, glue it back down.

d'ovation

Posted 2013-03-12 5:27 PM (#468270 - in reply to #468244)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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I noticed that on my older 6751 the rosette is just glued on top (and had lifeted off at some time), whereas on mynnewer 6756LX it's inlaid. Is the inlaid rosette a feature of the Legend vs. Balladeer, or just a result of different manufacturing method and applied to all newer models?

Mark in Boise

Posted 2013-03-12 6:25 PM (#468271 - in reply to #468244)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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It's a newer model thing, kind of like the inlaid epaulets. Older Legends and Balladeers had the outlaid rosettes.

alpep

Posted 2013-03-12 7:14 PM (#468272 - in reply to #468244)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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if you have good technique you don't need a pickguard

Waskel

Posted 2013-03-13 9:44 AM (#468281 - in reply to #468244)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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Ay, there's the rub.

nerdydave

Posted 2013-03-13 10:43 PM (#468301 - in reply to #468244)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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So some folks strum the strings and some folks strum the guitar??

ksdaddy

Posted 2013-03-14 7:00 AM (#468304 - in reply to #468244)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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I've never understood how guitars can get the snot beat out of them with a pick but it does happen. To me it's like all the paint being chipped off around the key slot in your car door. I mean really, in the normal course of using something, how does it get the crap beat out of it so?

As far as pickguards on bowl guitars... yeah, there were about 105,000 made.

dwg preacher

Posted 2013-03-14 8:07 AM (#468306 - in reply to #468301)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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nerdydave - 2013-03-13 9:43 PM So some folks strum the strings and some folks strum the guitar??

Yes, some of us just pound on the guitar and hope a note comes out. See any of the 100 snide comments my friend DaveKell has made about my techniqu, then take a look at Trigger (Willie Nelson's Martin companion for the past 60 years). I've seen others with great big gouges out of their guitar face. I met a guy at a gig once who had a 15 or 20 year old Seagull with what looked like a Dremel groove from the soundhole at about 7 o'clock that was at least 2 inches long. His even had sawdust around it.

Strumming technique has to be practiced, and I think for those of us who are self-taught, it can easily be the most overlooked detail. I'm a drummer, and I think personally my technique problems originated with years of hitting things to make noise, so that is an idea I have to outgrow. So buying an Elite was what I really needed to do, right?

I was glad the Balladeer had the inlaid rosette, because it became easier to install a pick guard. If I was going to put a pickguard on a guitar with a glued-on rosette, I think I would cut the guard so it fit snugly beneath the rosette, rather than try to remove the rosette...

DaveKell

Posted 2013-03-14 11:04 AM (#468311 - in reply to #468306)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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dwg preacher - 2013-03-14 8:07 AM

nerdydave - 2013-03-13 9:43 PM So some folks strum the strings and some folks strum the guitar??

See any of the 100 snide comments my friend DaveKell has made about my techniqu, then take a look at Trigger

But you know better than anyone that's just my sense of humor and intimate familiarity with your buttons to push right? Actually, I was quite impressed with how you've come along on guitar. As a songwriter, I haven't formed an opinion of you yet. I still think the song you wrote about the old grey ghost pickup truck could be a country hit for the right artist. You should post a link to it so everyone can see what I mean. The lyrics were magical.

dwg preacher

Posted 2013-03-14 12:44 PM (#468316 - in reply to #468311)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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DaveKell - 2013-03-14 10:04 AM

. I still think the song you wrote about the old grey ghost pickup truck could be a country hit for the right artist. You should post a link to it so everyone can see what I mean. The lyrics were magical.

I haven't recorded it yet, Dave, but the band is working on it, and I'm sure that in the near future we'll be posting some samples of our work. I actually have a couple of others that you haven't heard that I am much more excited about. You'll get to hear them first, I'm sure.

And I know your sense of humor. My feelings weren't hurt.

Waskel

Posted 2013-03-14 1:36 PM (#468321 - in reply to #468244)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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Literary humor is wasted here.

dvd

Posted 2013-03-14 3:35 PM (#468327 - in reply to #468321)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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Waskel@Work - 2013-03-14 2:36 PM

Literary humor is wasted here.

Et tu, Brute?

Waskel

Posted 2013-03-14 4:33 PM (#468329 - in reply to #468244)
Subject: Re: Ditching a rosette for a pickguard.

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Word.

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