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SOBeach
Posted 2012-08-16 11:09 AM (#457859 - in reply to #457713)
Subject: RE: Well this stinks out loud!


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Gosh Patch, sounds like that's a Joe Btfsplk guitar! (fer you youngin's, he was a Li'l Abner character)

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ProfessorBB
Posted 2012-08-16 1:39 PM (#457864 - in reply to #457858)
Subject: RE: Well this stinks out loud!



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patchmcg - 2012-08-16 10:19 AM What are the odds that all of this could happen to one guitar? [/QUOTE">[/QUOTE]

Does the serial number end in 666?  I had a super fast sport bike some years ago with a serial number that ended in 666.  The first owner was continually nailed for speeding, eventually landing in jail for 120 days for exeeding 130 mph on a straight stretch of a 2-lane mountain road.  They had a road block for him.   I then bought the bike against warnings from mutual friends who reported that the bike belonged to the Devil.  I talked my way out of three tickets the first summer I had it, then smashed it up.  After the repairs were complete, I gave it back to the Devil. 

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Patch
Posted 2012-08-17 10:45 AM (#457896 - in reply to #457713)
Subject: RE: Well this stinks out loud!



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Update time:

Clarion Insurance is sending a check to me today to begin repairs. Now I just have to somehow free some time to get to the factory.

I have to say, I am VERY, VERY pleased with Clarion. This is the second claim I have made with them in several years, the first being a guitar I purchased that was damaged while being shipped to me. Both have been excellent experiences. I highly recommend them as they are both efficient and reasonable when it comes to cost. Seriously, comparing this claim experience to ANY carrier liability claim is like comparing Ghandi to Stalin......Sitting on the beach to sitting in the dentist chair.......Sailing to sinking.......a good book to a thirty second news spot........Playing guitar to playing banjo.......

I'm so relieved I could go on all day.

Edited by Patch 2012-08-17 10:59 AM
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kitmann
Posted 2012-08-17 11:15 AM (#457897 - in reply to #457713)
Subject: Re: Well this stinks out loud!



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Great news Patch, can't wait to see the repairs and what she looks like. I may have to look into Clarion, I don't think my insurance would cover the damage.
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Patch
Posted 2012-08-17 11:38 AM (#457899 - in reply to #457713)
Subject: RE: Well this stinks out loud!



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For those who are unaware that specialized insurance exists for people in our position, Clarion specializes in insuring musical instruments. The people I have talked to there seem to understand the foibles of musician's particular challenges. For example, they actually understood that a guitar can be damaged just by dropping a shipping box too hard, even though the box still looks OK.

I have no benefit to gain from endorsing them, but having posted at least one rant about an absolutely HORRID claim experience with an anonymous shipping company (begins with a "U"; ends with an "S"), I thinks it is worth posting when a company like Clarion steps up to the integrity plate. So in the interests of supporting a company that stood by its client, I hereby give it appropriate props via a link to their website....

Clarion Insurance



Edited by Patch 2012-08-17 11:40 AM
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Tony Calman
Posted 2012-08-18 1:08 AM (#457928 - in reply to #457713)
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Quote: "Does the serial number end in 666?"

There are probably more than a few '666' out there...one of my 1687 Adamas I's is 666-93 that I have had since 11/2004. Outstanding example of the factory's craftmanship.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2012-08-18 1:10 AM (#457929 - in reply to #457713)
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Patch, appreciate the link to Clarion.
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stephent28
Posted 2012-08-18 10:00 AM (#457934 - in reply to #457713)
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Heritage is another great insurance company for instruments.
There prices are hard to beat and service is excellent.
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kitmann
Posted 2012-08-18 11:10 AM (#457936 - in reply to #457713)
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Thanks Patch, turned in a quote, Stephent28, I'll check them also, thanks guys.
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Standingovation
Posted 2012-08-18 11:12 AM (#457938 - in reply to #457713)
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Shop around. It's a bit of a balance. Companies known for no-hastle quick payout are generally able to do so because they are making significant profits on the premiums. Personally I can wait an extra 2 weeks for a check in exchange for paying a hundred bucks less a year.

But the bottom line is that if you have money invested in valuable musical instruments you should have a good policy from a company specializing in that area. Just make sure that if you submit a claim for a stolen guitar that it was actually stolen and you didn't happen to sell it and forget.
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Waskel
Posted 2012-08-18 12:46 PM (#457941 - in reply to #457938)
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Standingovation - 2012-08-18 9:12 AM
Just make sure that if you submit a claim for a stolen guitar that it was actually stolen and you didn't happen to sell it and forget.


Anybody who would do that probably has shadowy figures vacuuming his back yard, too.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2012-08-21 9:28 PM (#458079 - in reply to #457941)
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Waskel@Work - 2012-08-18 11:46 AM

Standingovation - 2012-08-18 9:12 AM
Just make sure that if you submit a claim for a stolen guitar that it was actually stolen and you didn't happen to sell it and forget.


Anybody who would do that probably has shadowy figures vacuuming his back yard, too.


and pees in his own pool.
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Slipkid
Posted 2012-09-06 5:18 PM (#458797 - in reply to #458079)
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I passed on an important life lesson today.
My son picked up a guitar about a year ago and he's doing quite well.
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First I showed him the first pics posted of Patch's Koa. I described all the special features and how long it took to make it happen.
Then we moved on to the other thread with the pics of the cracked top.
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Right on que my son asked... "what happened?".
I said "come here.... I'll show you."
We walked into his room and I pointed to the guitar case laying flat on the floor.

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Lesson learned.

Sorry I had to use you as the example Patch.



Edited by Slipkid 2012-09-06 5:21 PM
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SOBeach
Posted 2012-09-06 5:41 PM (#458798 - in reply to #457713)
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Well played Slipkid. 

Reminds me of that old saying...

 

A smart man learns from his mistakes (mishaps). A wise man learns from the mistakes (mishaps) of others.

 

Hey Patch, how's the patient doing??


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Darkbar
Posted 2012-09-06 6:32 PM (#458800 - in reply to #458798)
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SOBeach - 2012-09-06 6:41 PM
A wise man learns from the mistakes (mishaps) of others.

And yet our elected politicians keep making the same mistakes over and over and over.......

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Patch
Posted 2012-09-06 8:25 PM (#458807 - in reply to #457713)
Subject: RE: Well this stinks out loud!



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Well FWIW, my guitars are never stored flat. This one was in my gear closet with the others secured side-by-side. The only thing I can possibly think was that it got tagged at church where I last played it several weeks before. I suppose it's possible that it was put in its case and lay there on the chairs for a few minutes. Maybe that's when it happened. I'll never know.

As far as progress, I left it at the factory when I picked up my koa. John says it will get a new top and take about 2-3 months. I also left my 1987-5 there to have the bowl stripped and re-sprayed. (It has some huge, ugly adhesive spots on it that I've never been able to remove.) They'll also give it its 25-year check up.

In other words, expect more sales in the future as these get closer to shipping.
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Slipkid
Posted 2012-09-07 7:30 AM (#458813 - in reply to #457713)
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Forgive me for taking dramatic license with the facts.
But I had point to make.
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