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nrkn
Posted 2012-03-22 10:27 PM (#452206)
Subject: Need Machine Head for my VIper


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Hi...I am trying to locate an original Ovation machine head for my Viper. It's the Low E tuner. Anyone know where I can get one?
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Nick B.
Posted 2012-03-22 10:37 PM (#452209 - in reply to #452206)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper



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One of the moderators should be along shortly to give you access to the other forums. In the event you don't get a response, you should post this question in the "For Sale" forum (once you get access). Not everyone can post to this forum, only new members and a few Walmart greeters in training. Good luck in finding the tuner and welcome to the group.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2012-03-22 11:27 PM (#452213 - in reply to #452206)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper


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you've been upgraded and I'll move this thread to the wanted forum, but first...

Which original Viper tuners? There is the solidbody and semi-hollow guitars, and there were at least three versions of the tuners on the solid bodies. A picture of the ones you have would be best.
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nrkn
Posted 2012-03-24 6:06 PM (#452286 - in reply to #452213)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper


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Hi...it's a white (yellow) solid body. Serial number is 11113. I attached a photo of the same ones on another guitar I found online. My camera isn't working right now. Thanks!
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nrkn
Posted 2012-03-24 6:07 PM (#452287 - in reply to #452213)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper


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http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachments/other-guitars-other-instrume...
y-wife-got-me-ovation-viper-solid-body-1974-ish-dscf5833-jpg
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2012-03-24 6:15 PM (#452288 - in reply to #452206)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper


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Hopefully someone has a spare. Those are pretty rare.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2012-03-25 12:09 AM (#452297 - in reply to #452206)
Subject: RE: Need Machine Head for my VIper



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nrkn - 2012-03-22 8:27 PM

Hi...I am trying to locate an original Ovation machine head for my Viper. It's the Low E tuner. Anyone know where I can get one?




Just a quick pic of what he is talking about.

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nrkn
Posted 2012-03-26 9:41 PM (#452409 - in reply to #452297)
Subject: RE: Need Machine Head for my VIper


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Do you have any info on what they are called or what I should be looking for? I can't believe how hard they are to find.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2012-03-26 10:24 PM (#452412 - in reply to #452206)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper


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I think they were Schaller. They were used on early Ovation solid bodies, note the Ovation logo on them. You could replace all 6 with I believe Schaller M22 offsets (meaning the screws are offset) but the only way you'll find replacements is if someone else upgraded and has spares or someone has some originals tucked away. To make matters worse, with age the plastc on the originals crack and the logos would fall out. Probably why they switched to all metal.
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nrkn
Posted 2012-03-29 10:12 PM (#452548 - in reply to #452412)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper


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So you're telling me that the best replacement I can find is as hard to find as the original? has anyone used anything else that was successful?
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2012-03-29 10:24 PM (#452549 - in reply to #452206)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper


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I believe Schaller has replacements that are all metal in their m-22 line. I'm moving this into the General Forum area so more folks can help out.
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TJR
Posted 2012-03-30 6:51 AM (#452557 - in reply to #452288)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper



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I may have one or possibly even two, though I'm not sure of it's LH or RH.
I recall a post a long time ago that spoke about the early pegs. regarding the anti-rotation screw(s), weren't some with one screw ?, some were diagonal but opposite of others ? Maybe they were straight across? I don't recall. Maybe I'm thinking about the very early Deacon ones though. I'm away for a few days and won't be able to check until Sunday or so. TJR


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bburg
Posted 2012-03-30 11:37 AM (#452564 - in reply to #452206)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper



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Hi, are they Nylon made or metal? I think the double scewed are Nylon, but not sure..... Left side or righ tside??
I'm living in Germany, Schaller also. Maybe I can help.

Bernie
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MWoody
Posted 2012-03-30 2:14 PM (#452569 - in reply to #452206)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper



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The Schaller M6Ns are hard to find, I'm down to a handful with broken tabs. I did a quick search on FleaBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-Schaller-tuners-3-3-Made-in-W-Germany-Nylon-70s-Pearl-Tips-Lightweight-/120862997801?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item1c23fefd29

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schaller-M6MN-Tuners-Machine-Head-Set-LH-Left-Hand-NOS-/270924295877?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3f1458aec5

 



Edited by MWoody 2012-03-30 2:18 PM
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nrkn
Posted 2012-04-02 9:25 AM (#452690 - in reply to #452206)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper


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Hi, thanks everybody who has chimed in so far. They look to have Nylon casings (I hope that is what you mean) around metal. The one I need is on the left side (Low E). Thanks again!
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nrkn
Posted 2012-04-02 9:31 AM (#452691 - in reply to #452206)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper


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I just realized that might not make sense. Not sure if there is Nylon at all on these. The casings are plastic. sorry
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TJR
Posted 2012-04-02 11:17 PM (#452713 - in reply to #452206)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper



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I did find a partial set and should have at least one for your guitar.
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nrkn
Posted 2012-04-03 10:24 AM (#452722 - in reply to #452713)
Subject: Re: Need Machine Head for my VIper


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That's fantastic! Please email me at snurkinATgmailDOTcom and I will be happy to compensate you...Thank you!!!
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