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dweezil
Posted 2009-07-18 2:30 PM (#406647)
Subject: OT: Has the love affair ended?


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Had a session recording today using my new M-Audio Fast Track Ultra (8 in 8 out PC audio interface - great piece of kit) with the AKG C1000s and Rode NT1a mics.

The tune I was focusing on was St. Andrews (a slowish Scottish piece in dropped D).

Anyhow results with the 07 and 1680 were not great.

So out comes the Taylor (model W12C, walnut back and sides, AAA+++ spruce top) and WOW!!!!!!

I think it comes down to the old "right tool for the job" but then played my Legg pieces and some others and I have to say it responds so well and sounds just great.

Keep your eyes on the for sale section. :eek:
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BT717
Posted 2009-07-18 2:36 PM (#406648 - in reply to #406647)
Subject: Re: OT: Has the love affair ended?


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Nothing wrong with being open minded about your
"tool" as you put it. Everyones ear is different and to knock someones preference, well, just isn't right.

Glad the Taylor worked for you!!
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-07-18 2:55 PM (#406649 - in reply to #406647)
Subject: Re: OT: Has the love affair ended?



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Originally posted by dweezil:
Keep your eyes on the for sale section. :eek:
So you're going to sell the Taylor? This is not the best place to do that, but last I heard, Moody was back in the market for one.
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Beal
Posted 2009-07-18 3:02 PM (#406650 - in reply to #406647)
Subject: Re: OT: Has the love affair ended?



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Brad played one once and liked it, but won't admit it.
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-07-18 3:20 PM (#406651 - in reply to #406647)
Subject: Re: OT: Has the love affair ended?



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Oh I'll admit it alright. It was Davis' guitar and he had it set up real nice.
But that was at my first Amelia.

At the second Amelia I played that burst Collings.
I like it much better than the Taylor.

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Nothing wrong with the right tool for the right job no matter what the brand.
I got nothin' but O's and I'm amazed how different they are to eachother.
The love affair has not ended. Play the Taylor exclusivly for 3 weeks, then pick up an O. You'll re-discover it all over again.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-07-18 4:14 PM (#406652 - in reply to #406647)
Subject: Re: OT: Has the love affair ended?



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Originally posted by Slipkid:
Play the Taylor exclusivly for 3 weeks,
MISSION IMPOSSIBLE
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Beal
Posted 2009-07-18 5:16 PM (#406653 - in reply to #406647)
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-07-18 5:22 PM (#406654 - in reply to #406647)
Subject: Re: OT: Has the love affair ended?


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Originally posted by Slipkid:

The love affair has not ended. Play the Taylor exclusivly for 3 weeks, then pick up an O. You'll re-discover it all over again.
I`m inclined to agree , and yet ...

I myself am hunting for a non-O` git. , admittedly , it is a JUMBO that I`m going for,....
A long ,long time ago , I posted a thread about the " lack " of Ovation Jumbo`s , indeed , I `ve been rather disappointed about the new O`models , they`re like .. the same .,. the same .. plus , much "black color " , over here , so many used black-colored git`s are for sale , for a cheap money ! fx. a pristine 3 yr. old J-40 "black" ..for several hundred USd less than the " blond " 5 yr. old version , it`s been for sale for over 2 yrs. by now ... coincidence ?.. or maybe a Trend .. perhaps Black-colored gits. are out of fashion , ..I hope that FMI will " take the bull by the horns " and , instead of just relying on the " bowl " for old hat novelty and leaning on the GUILD for Sound-quality ..
Too often do I see O/A gits. for sale , due to the owner having purchased a ( insert brand ) guitar , and ,.. pictures showing " pulled off bridges " causing splintered tops , do not help the O` cause ..., why , I`ve seen the Epaulets of a 3 mnts. ( three months ! ) old ADAMAS ,..LIFTING UP !! , ... the bonding had loosened , true , it was in Singapore , where Humidity reaches 85 % .. but still , there`s No Force being applied on them Epi`s , so if that happens , then what about the Bracing ?? When the Gent went to the shop , he was informed to " just glue it back on " , he tried , and the Epi broke , that`s one gent who will not buy another one , he`s a Pro , and has spread the word , ..
Horrible stories , YES , why do they apply to O / A gits. ??.... stopped Me from purchasing an A ..
I say ,..address the issues , expand the line .. or .. face the consequenses , .. come with that JUMBO .. stop dilly-dallying ,.. come with REAL Differences .., what would I ( and others ) do with gits. that are Alike , gimme what I want !!.. or I`ll spent my hard-earned cash ELSEWHERE !! ... the threat is REAL ..specially in view of Fine Gits. ( incl. Ovation license build ) produced in far-away lands , it is NOT enough for the Axe to have a plastic box , the novelty has worn-off ..
For that price , .. it has to be GOOD , REAL GOOD .., build with that Good Ol` Ovation " Magic " , first of all , TERRIFIC SOUND ( like my old ones ) and then look at " design " ..,should not be that difficult for a company that has proven to churn out AFFORDABLE High Quality instruments.

Vic

Now , Build me that Super-JUMBO with triple A grade Spruce Top , Hand selected by a guy who knows his wood , Gold sputtered tuners , P.U with BALANCED Matching Pre-Amp. , then , I WILL purchase , a " Natural " , AND a " Sun-Burst " .. Right Away !! .. if not , I shall go Elsewhere ...
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2009-07-18 9:08 PM (#406655 - in reply to #406647)
Subject: Re: OT: Has the love affair ended?


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Originally posted by dweezil:
... The tune I was focusing on was St. Andrews (a slowish Scottish piece in dropped D).
Do you know of any youtube clips or whatever for that song? I was wondering how it goes but couldn't find anything. I did happen to find this piece of nostalgia though..lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqInvZ9hY9Y&feature=related
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-07-18 9:45 PM (#406656 - in reply to #406647)
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If you want to sell your Ovations then do so. It's really not going to impact my life in the least...
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Beggin
Posted 2009-07-19 12:02 AM (#406657 - in reply to #406647)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
If you want to sell your Ovations then do so. It's really not going to impact my life in the least...
Hater of...uhhh....ahhh....uhhh...OTHER guitars!
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wilblee
Posted 2009-07-19 6:56 AM (#406658 - in reply to #406647)
Subject: Re: OT: Has the love affair ended?


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Dweezil, I hear ya - kinda. For me it was Larrivee's. I have a 09 series Parlor and an 09 series L. I love 'em. The L, especially, has become my go-to acoustic.

BUT...

The other day someone on the Larrivee forum started a "I Hate Ovations" thread which got me to sit down and seriously play my O's again. As Brad pointed out, coming back to O's, after a while away, really let me appreciate their sound again. I still love the Larrivee's, but I love the O's, too.

I get the same way on my electrics. I play my favorite Strat and wonder why I own all these other guitars. Then I pull down my old Les Paul and wonder why it's been so long since I played this great guitar and the Strat gets to hang for awhile. Then I pick up the Soulmate...
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-07-19 7:24 AM (#406659 - in reply to #406647)
Subject: Re: OT: Has the love affair ended?


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dweezil
Posted 2009-07-19 7:33 AM (#406660 - in reply to #406647)
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What a difference a day makes.

Today was the first time I had to sit down and really play the 97C. That one will NOT be going anywhere anytime soon ;)

As I said "I think it comes down to the old right tool for the job".

Will try and record the 97C today.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-07-19 7:38 AM (#406661 - in reply to #406647)
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There are definately certain advantages to ovation, otherwise they wouldn't sell enough guitars to stay in business. Same holds true for all the other makers, including Taylor.

If you are looking for the prettiest guitar you might pick X, if you want the most road worthy you might pick Y, best sounding could be Z. Somebody else picks them and they would probably come up with A, B and C. Pick them again next week and probably come up with three different ones again.

I say play what you want, think what you want, doesn't matter a god damn what any one else thinks or plays. There are people who look at my guitars and say "what in the hell was he thinking." Hey, screw 'em. Last I checked there was only one yardstick in my house ... and it belonged to me.
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AlanM
Posted 2009-07-19 9:52 AM (#406662 - in reply to #406647)
Subject: Re: OT: Has the love affair ended?


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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
There are definately certain advantages to ovation, otherwise they wouldn't sell enough guitars to stay in business. Same holds true for all the other makers, including Taylor.

If you are looking for the prettiest guitar you might pick X, if you want the most road worthy you might pick Y, best sounding could be Z. Somebody else picks them and they would probably come up with A, B and C. Pick them again next week and probably come up with three different ones again.

I say play what you want, think what you want, doesn't matter a god damn what any one else thinks or plays. There are people who look at my guitars and say "what in the hell was he thinking." Hey, screw 'em. Last I checked there was only one yardstick in my house ... and it belonged to me.
Lol! Well, THAT's pretty plainspoken! Anyone in doubt as to where Gallerinski's coming from?

I guess I have to agree, btw.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-07-19 7:53 PM (#406663 - in reply to #406647)
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and Dave can get to Z and keep going.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2009-07-19 9:35 PM (#406664 - in reply to #406647)
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What the heck, I had a Larivee OM with bearclaw top, koa sides and back...traded it for a pre-production 1537; no regrets at all.

I have not been disappointed with any old or new Adamas,Ovation, or Hamer that I have bought or traded for...I have been disappointed with some other brands.
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bvince
Posted 2009-07-19 10:34 PM (#406665 - in reply to #406647)
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When I get one of those hankerin' feelings to play something "strange"(maening other than O)I just schedule a day and drive to Elderly Instruments in Lansing. I'll sit there all day and play everything I want, from $1500-20,000. Then I go back and once again understand why I bought Ovations. It's kinda like going on one of those Vegas weekends and visiting a bordello. Then (hopefully) when you get back home you realize that your wife is the one you really want to be with all the time.(Oh by the way ... I haven't actually done the second one, just an example))
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-07-20 1:07 AM (#406666 - in reply to #406647)
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OK, I take my click back...not the bashing as usual so I do appreciate that...Dweez, whatever floats your boat...Dave, good reflections...Tony, you too...I have gone through times when one guitar or the other has not sounded as I thought it should...I think that is why I have so many of different makes...something always sounds good...tools, ice cream, whatever: you can never have too many...the more the merrier...
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dweezil
Posted 2009-07-20 2:54 AM (#406667 - in reply to #406647)
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I wasn't bashing the Ovations.
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bgm2000
Posted 2009-07-20 10:02 PM (#406668 - in reply to #406647)
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Well - I will certainly offer $5.00 for the 1680 if thats what it takes. jk
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lanaki
Posted 2009-07-21 12:07 AM (#406669 - in reply to #406647)
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has dweezil's opening post on this thread been posted over on the taylor forum yet?
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