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MWoody
Posted 2009-11-06 12:42 AM (#392219)
Subject: So I'm thinking...



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That a nice little Jazz HB at the neck and a Single right about here should provide a nice range of sounds.

Whaddya think?



Koa Viper 12 string
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David Van
Posted 2009-11-06 2:39 AM (#392220 - in reply to #392219)
Subject: Re: So I'm thinking...


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I am thinking that would be SWEET!!!!
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fletcher
Posted 2009-11-06 2:59 AM (#392221 - in reply to #392219)
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Begs the question,

Why did Ovation stop making the original solid body vipers?

This is just one example of where the line could have gone. Heck, I don't play much electric but I would certainly buy this!

Beautiful instrument Woody.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-11-06 7:08 AM (#392222 - in reply to #392219)
Subject: Re: So I'm thinking...
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You can make the coolest shit in the world but if nobody buys it you won't be making it for long.

The better question is why were the solid bodies not commercially successful? Not good guitars? Wrong design for peoples taste at the time? Over priced? Poorly marketed?

There's lots of examples of products like this over the years (musical and not) that dispite being technically good products just never caught on.
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TRboy
Posted 2009-11-06 8:47 AM (#392223 - in reply to #392219)
Subject: Re: So I'm thinking...



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Probaby the perception by the public that Ovation was a acoustic guitar builder....

....Years ago even Martin tried their hand at electrics (I've seen a hollowbody much like a ES335)that never caught on.

Your Viper looks fantastic Woody....another winner!
Posts us some finished pics....
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MWoody
Posted 2009-11-06 8:52 AM (#392224 - in reply to #392219)
Subject: Re: So I'm thinking...



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Good thing I run a non-profit Luthiery/Therapy bussiness!

We operate tonight!
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TRboy
Posted 2009-11-06 8:56 AM (#392225 - in reply to #392219)
Subject: Re: So I'm thinking...



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Woody,Is that a inlay at the rear....show us some close ups please
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-11-06 8:59 AM (#392226 - in reply to #392219)
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Cool work bench.
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MWoody
Posted 2009-11-06 9:01 AM (#392227 - in reply to #392219)
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Soitanlee...



I had some Mothership trash can Paduak that was cut for Epaulets (2005 Factory Tour?) so I had to toss it in with a bit of Ebony.

The body is still unfinished and cabinet scraper clean.
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seesquare
Posted 2009-11-06 9:16 AM (#392228 - in reply to #392219)
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Damn......you've got talent. OK, some of us- read, me- provide a support & cheerleading function.
GO, MIKE, GO!!!
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TRboy
Posted 2009-11-06 9:22 AM (#392229 - in reply to #392219)
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NICE....VERY NICE!
Can't wait to see it with finish applied

Maybe make some matching control knobs.....??
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-11-06 9:34 AM (#392230 - in reply to #392219)
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are you planning on putting on the big viper pickguard, or going through the back with the wiring and preserving the beauty of the top deck?
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Weaser P
Posted 2009-11-06 9:50 AM (#392231 - in reply to #392219)
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(Go through the back! Go through the back!!)
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Beal
Posted 2009-11-06 9:55 AM (#392232 - in reply to #392219)
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Yeah, no pickguard, go through the back.
A 12 string with a single in the bridge will be really bright sounding, maybe too much so. Put a firebird pickup in it, maybe two and forget the neck mounted one, just two bird pus in the normal spots.
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MWoody
Posted 2009-11-06 11:00 AM (#392233 - in reply to #392219)
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I have the Neck mount HB at 7.5 resistance and an Artec Alnico 5 HB at 8.7. I am really curious how the Single will sound if placed between the normal Bridge and mid position.

Firebird Pups sound interesting. Aren't they two stacked windings over a Rail/Blade magnet?

Also want to play with a .0047 micro farad Cap and ON/ON switch for a "Ric" tone.

And yes, no PG to block the view...
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numbfingers
Posted 2009-11-06 11:27 AM (#392234 - in reply to #392219)
Subject: Re: So I'm thinking...


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I've read that Firebird pickups have individual bar magnets inside each coil- but still have two small side-by-side coils, not stacked. The typical mini humbucker with adjustable polepieces has a single magnet underneath both coils.

I have some pickups you could try, but nothing gold colored if that's what you're using. Or are those parts chrome?

-Steve W.
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MWoody
Posted 2009-11-07 1:07 AM (#392235 - in reply to #392219)
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Made some cuts.

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cholloway
Posted 2009-11-07 1:24 AM (#392236 - in reply to #392219)
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Whut color you gonna paint it???

heh heh heh...

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MWoody
Posted 2009-11-07 11:34 AM (#392237 - in reply to #392219)
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I'm trying to find a can of Koa at Home Depot.

The "base" for the Koa top is a Loovely one piece Maple that someone routed for some ungodly reason.
The Body will get Lacquer with a slight amber tint. I can't decide if I'll oil the neck or grab the same tone cuz I prefer the oiled necks.
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MWoody
Posted 2009-11-07 4:23 PM (#392238 - in reply to #392219)
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2009-11-08 2:52 AM (#392239 - in reply to #392219)
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Beautiful work.
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cholloway
Posted 2009-11-08 3:13 AM (#392240 - in reply to #392219)
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WOW!!! That's going to be a NICE one.
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