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Omaha
Posted 2010-04-24 11:38 AM (#373996 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...


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Location: Omaha, NE
All things considered, I think this has all turned out pretty well.

Do Ovation fans really pine for a world where the Ovation design became the standard, and all manufacturers were making roundback guitars today?

Or do we just pine for a world where the Ovation design is uniformly respected?

Sorry, can't have the latter without the former. If the design were uniformly respected in acoustic guitar circles, everyone would be making them, and then Ovations would stop being unique.

As it stands, it seems to be the case that the CT plant is going to be around for quite a while, and we'll continue to be able to buy all the new Ovations we want. What more do you need?
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2010-04-24 2:39 PM (#373997 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...


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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest
Originally posted by Omaha:
All things considered, I think this has all turned out pretty well.

Do Ovation fans really pine for a world where the Ovation design became the standard, and all manufacturers were making roundback guitars today?

Or do we just pine for a world where the Ovation design is uniformly respected?
Speaking just for myself, I don't "pine" for a global change nor really care about the "respect" issues, I just don't really understand why it hasn't happened.

I have said this numberous times, and I still think it bears repeating... While there are some nice sounding guitars made of wood and even other materials out there... A round back guitar is the correct shape to emphasis the vibration of the top most evenly and result in uniform volume and tone up and down the neck. Frankly I more baffled as to why others haven't tried different variations such as a square looking body, but maybe round on the inside or something like that.

Of all the non-Ovation guitars I have played over the years, and I really only even have interest in higher end ones, very few have I found to be pleasing to my ears. If it "sounds like wood" (basically all mid-range), I'm not interested. However, most Ovations I have ever played range in sound from good to fantastic. I believe it's the bowl that is responsible for most of that as that is what is consistent on all the Ovations. Then of course plugged in... well.. nothing compares.. not even close.

So as I stated up top.. I don't pine for the days when everyone wakes up, I'm just surprised it hasn't happened. But then again, people still play Strats and Les Pauls when there are soooo many better built solid bodies out there.

Go figure...
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2010-04-24 3:11 PM (#373998 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...



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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR
And I will say once again....

"There is just an indescribable satisfaction about owning a guitar that everybody Hates!"
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stephent28
Posted 2010-04-24 3:43 PM (#373999 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...



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well grasshopper
when the student become the master he allows himself to quote himself
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-04-24 5:11 PM (#374000 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...


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Location: SoCal
Originally posted by stephent28:
well grasshopper
when the student become the master he allows himself to quote himself
We'll let you know when it's time.....
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standing
Posted 2010-04-25 1:19 AM (#374001 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...



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Location: Texas
I thought anyone with at least 3 rows of guitars listed in their signature was automatically promoted to master…
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Beal
Posted 2010-04-25 8:52 AM (#374002 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...



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Location: 6 String Ranch
that's true
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RomanS
Posted 2010-04-25 9:31 AM (#374003 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...


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Location: Brisbane,Australia
Where there is no fear, there is no danger. When one has learned the art of Ovation ,only then can one reach the ultimate state of happiness. :)
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Avatar4550
Posted 2010-04-28 5:25 PM (#374004 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...


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Posts: 370

Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA
The fact that the craftsmen at Ovation have elevated the building of guitars to an art form does complicate things somewhat, but ultimately... a guitar is a tool, nothing more... nothing less.

There are musicians here at the OFC that are STUNNING players and there are collectors who have STUNNING collections (and don't really play...). Both are admirable!!

I have heard guys on street corners playing crappy guitars that took my breath away. But by the same token, I have also heard people playing absolutely magical instruments that couldn't channel the power that the instrument maker put into it, waiting to be released.

Guitars... music... art... everything is subjective and if someone wants to believe their Taylor (or whatever...) is better than an Adamas... more power to them!!

Thiry years from now, take both of them out of their cases, try them and see which one sounds better... I know where I'd put my money...
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-04-29 12:00 AM (#374005 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...
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I've posted this before, only to get ridiculed ... but here goes. I think of Ovation guitars and Apple computers as being very similar in that 1) both are small players in the grand scheme of things, 2) both suffer from a majority of the public that won't even try them, 3) both have fiercely loyal users who know the product is superior to the "norm" no matter what the uneducated other 95% of the world thinks, and 4) both have an users attitude of "I'm right, they're wrong, end of story."
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stonebobbo
Posted 2010-04-29 2:06 AM (#374006 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...



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Location: Tennessee
And the owners of both aforementioned products are always the coolest kids on the planet. :cool:
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TAFKAR
Posted 2010-04-29 2:27 AM (#374007 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...



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Location: Sydney, Australia
I'm so cool!
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Wildwood
Posted 2010-04-30 1:27 PM (#374008 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...


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Posts: 95

Location: St Louis
Hey guys...

I don't get here much anymore but read this thread and thought I would chime in.

I belong(ed) to a blues guitar forum and recently somebody asked the membership to recommend a good acoustic blues guitar. I replied that I have an Ovation 1778T Elite (black if that makes a difference...) and often play blues with it.

The response to my post was overwhelmingly negative and borderline nasty.

I essentially told them to f@#* off, took my ball and went home...never to play with those children again.

To each his own...I love my Elite!!
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Waskel
Posted 2010-04-30 1:38 PM (#374009 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...



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Posts: 11840

Location: closely held secret
Yeah, we get that a lot...
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-04-30 2:08 PM (#374010 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...



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Posts: 5881

Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains
Edited. Wrong friggin' topic.
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PEZ
Posted 2010-05-01 2:07 PM (#374011 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...



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Posts: 3111

Location: Nashville TN.
we all get a lot of that
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-05-01 2:56 PM (#374012 - in reply to #373896)
Subject: Re: All Ovations sound the same...


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Posts: 15664

Location: SoCal
Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I've posted this before, only to get ridiculed ... but here goes. I think of Ovation guitars and Apple computers as being very similar in that 1) both are small players in the grand scheme of things, 2) both suffer from a majority of the public that won't even try them, 3) both have fiercely loyal users who know the product is superior to the "norm" no matter what the uneducated other 95% of the world thinks, and 4) both have an users attitude of "I'm right, they're wrong, end of story."
Toss in rotary engines w/ this grouping.....
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