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Trying my hand at songwriting
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Joined: March 2009 Posts: 715 | I'm going tonight to meet with a songwriting mentor. It probably won't be a long session (about 4 weeks), but it's something I've always wanted to learn. I didn't think I would be nervous about tonight, but I guess I am. I tried playing a song that I know that I can play decently, but tonight -- nothing! I can't seem to remember the chord combinations, I'm screwing up on my right hand picking, etc! Sometimes I wonder if I bite off more than I can chew. I'm just now being able to put singing and playing together on some songs, and now I want to songwrite! Any advice will be greatly appreciated! Michelle | ||
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| Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | The advantage to writing and playing your own music is: Nobody can tell you that you are doing it wrong! Look forward to hearing how much you enjoy it. | ||
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| XTDream |
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Joined: December 2010 Posts: 43 Location: Las Vegas | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur: "Perfect."The advantage to writing and playing your own music is: Nobody can tell you that you are doing it wrong! Look forward to hearing how much you enjoy it. | ||
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| stephent28 |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Start easy...plenty of famous/#1 hit tunes that are no more than 3 chords. | ||
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| Guitarzannie |
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Joined: March 2009 Posts: 715 | Thanks guys! I think the first lesson went well. I've got a few things to work on, and I'm having just thinking about the writing I'm going to do. The one thing that worries me is that I won't be able to do the lessons long term because of money. But I did make the teacher aware of that before this lesson. Michelle | ||
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| Guitarzannie |
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Joined: March 2009 Posts: 715 | Oh, and I forgot to mention that the teacher was very impressed with my Patriot! Michelle | ||
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| Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12761 Location: Boise, Idaho | Originally posted by Guitarzannie: Hope his teaching abilities are as good as his taste in guitars. Best of luck to you.Oh, and I forgot to mention that the teacher was very impressed with my Patriot! Michelle | ||
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| FlySig |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4081 Location: Utah | Have fun! Listen to songs, really listen. You'll hear all kinds of things such as chord progressions, alterations to the progressions, little fills and embellishments, and how the melody is structured in different ways. This will help you come up with ideas if nothing else. | ||
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| Guitarzannie |
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Joined: March 2009 Posts: 715 | Originally posted by Mark in Boise: Well, he gave me a few pointers and at least 4 things to work on this week. Originally posted by Guitarzannie: Hope his teaching abilities are as good as his taste in guitars. Best of luck to you. Oh, and I forgot to mention that the teacher was very impressed with my Patriot! Michelle He has a Lowden that sounds really good. I just love the reactions I get with the Patriot, though. Michelle | ||
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| Guitarzannie |
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Joined: March 2009 Posts: 715 | Originally posted by FlySig: Thanks! The one thing that will be good about this is that I will have to get out my chord chart and try out chords that I haven't played in a long time. Have fun! Listen to songs, really listen. You'll hear all kinds of things such as chord progressions, alterations to the progressions, little fills and embellishments, and how the melody is structured in different ways. This will help you come up with ideas if nothing else. I've gotten in a rut with "cowboy chords" (not that there is anything wrong with them) and would like to try out different chord combinations. And I've been listening to different songwriters to try to see what I could use in songs. Lately I've been listening to Jackson Browne and John Denver. Michelle | ||
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| kitmann |
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Joined: April 2010 Posts: 1227 Location: Connersville, Indiana | Michele, I think you will find a great feeling writing music. I know I have. Don't get disgusted and remember, for every good song I have written I have 10-20 that sucked. But don't throw anything away. Keep everything you write. Because when your writing a song, you can go back to other songs you wrote and didn't like and use parts of those either chord progression or lyrics to finish you song your writing. I done this many times where I was stuck and I went back over other songs I did not like and used a part of those to complete the one I was working on. Enjoy and have fun. Kit | ||
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| fillhixx |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4833 Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Books I can recommend on the subject: Tunesmith by Jimmy Webb Successful Lyric Writing by Sheila Davis Good luck! The first 100 are the hardest. | ||
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| Guitarzannie |
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Joined: March 2009 Posts: 715 | Thanks guys! I will have to check out the Jimmy Webb and Sheila Davis books. One thing that seems to be a problem with me is that I have a melody in my head, but don't know how to play it because I don't know what chords I'm hearing. A melody came into my head as I was listening to someone else tonight. I don't know chords they were, and when I tried to play it, I didn't have any luck. But I did come up with something different, and that suited me fine. I came up with G, D, A7, D7 and G. It was really fun to play this, but it sounds more like and ending to a song than a beginning. Michelle | ||
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| FlySig |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4081 Location: Utah | Originally posted by Guitarzannie: Sounds quite normal to me. Many times I come up with a little riff or a chord progression, but it isn't a whole song. It has to simmer for a while, maybe even years, before it reveals where it should go. A melody came into my head as I was listening to someone else tonight. I don't know chords they were, and when I tried to play it, I didn't have any luck. But I did come up with something different, and that suited me fine. I came up with G, D, A7, D7 and G. It was really fun to play this, but it sounds more like and ending to a song than a beginning. My songs never end up how I first hear them in my head, either. | ||
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| Guitarzannie |
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Joined: March 2009 Posts: 715 | Originally posted by FlySig: The funny thing is that I had forgotten that my guitar was in an alternate tuning (dgcfad). When I tried it in standard tuning (eadgbe), I didn't like the sound as much! Originally posted by Guitarzannie: Sounds quite normal to me. Many times I come up with a little riff or a chord progression, but it isn't a whole song. It has to simmer for a while, maybe even years, before it reveals where it should go. A melody came into my head as I was listening to someone else tonight. I don't know chords they were, and when I tried to play it, I didn't have any luck. But I did come up with something different, and that suited me fine. I came up with G, D, A7, D7 and G. It was really fun to play this, but it sounds more like and ending to a song than a beginning. My songs never end up how I first hear them in my head, either. Michelle | ||
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Trying my hand at songwriting