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attra91
Posted 2011-03-03 9:41 AM (#355219)
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What was the name of the all synthetic guitar made by Ovation? As I recall the fretboard might have been wood. Thanks for any help.
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G8r
Posted 2011-03-03 10:08 AM (#355220 - in reply to #355219)
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Q

never in production, only prototypes.

Q10:



Q8:

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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2011-03-03 10:16 AM (#355221 - in reply to #355219)
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"What was the name of the all synthetic guitar made by Ovation?
As I recall the fretboard might have been wood."


Academy KA17



Oh, and that was:
Posts: 6666 | From: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Registered: Sep 2006 |
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AlanM
Posted 2011-03-03 10:21 AM (#355222 - in reply to #355219)
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OMA: quick 4 more posts!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2011-03-03 11:40 AM (#355223 - in reply to #355219)
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by AlanM:
OMA: quick 4 more posts!
Why? What happens at 6670?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2011-03-03 11:41 AM (#355224 - in reply to #355219)
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attra91 asks:
What was the name of the all synthetic guitar made by Ovation? As I recall the fretboard might have been wood. Thanks for any help.
Back On Topic!
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TAFKAR
Posted 2011-03-03 11:57 PM (#355225 - in reply to #355219)
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Call me dumb, but I still don't understand why Ovation can't make a production Q for $5k when Rainsong and CA were (are?) producing all carbon fibre guitars for less than that. Do they buy their carbon fibre sheets or make them themselves?
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Waskel
Posted 2011-03-04 12:05 AM (#355226 - in reply to #355219)
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Originally posted by TAFKAR:
Call me dumb
Richard, Richard, Richard...
Leading with your chin... are you new here?
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muzza
Posted 2011-03-04 1:45 AM (#355227 - in reply to #355219)
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Richard, I kind of insinuated such on the wideneck thread.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2011-03-04 3:38 AM (#355228 - in reply to #355219)
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CA went out of business as you may recall. Something about losing a lot of money and the investors pulling the plug.

The Q is orders of magnitude better than any Rainsong I've ever seen and played. The Q is on par with guitars from Collings and the like and Rainsongs are on par with G-series Taks (IMO). You get what you pay for and most of the costs are in building the guitar, not necessarily the materials.
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Damon67
Posted 2011-03-04 10:23 AM (#355229 - in reply to #355219)
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Peavey bought CA. I think they even showed one at NAMM along with their trace acoustic amp.
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Damon67
Posted 2011-03-04 10:24 AM (#355230 - in reply to #355219)
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This was posted in doubly
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G8r
Posted 2011-03-04 10:31 AM (#355231 - in reply to #355219)
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I think they even showed one at NAMM
Yep. They were directly across from the Kaman space. One whole outside wall of their display had maybe 8 or 10 CA models. OK, but I'd still much rather have an Adamas.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2011-03-04 11:44 AM (#355232 - in reply to #355219)
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Originally posted by Damon67:
Peavey bought CA.
Several months after CA was shut down and the factory shuttered due to financial problems. While Peavey showed them at NAMM, I understand they have not fully embraced them as a brand at Peavey, they are not promoting them on their website, and their future is still very much in doubt.

Rumor has it Peavey bought the brand just so they could come out with an OF model.
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Damon67
Posted 2011-03-04 12:47 PM (#355233 - in reply to #355219)
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I wasn't at NAMM. Hartley emailed a mutual friend after NAMM, excited about the fact that George Gruhn had just played one of the new Composite Acoustic guitars played through Peavey's "Trace Acoustic" amps and said that it was "..the best amplified acoustic sound he'd ever heard".

I'm pretty sure Hartley was more geeked about the review on the Trace.

I do think that if Peavey wanted to be in the acoustic guitar space, they'll need it to say something other than Peavey on the headstock.

Serge, I'd rather have an Adamas too. I did like the idea of their Cargo, but I never really gelled with it, so I didn't get one.

As for Rainsong, I've never enjoyed the tone or playability of any of those. They must be using the east indian carbon fiber as I hear the brazillian is no longer legal to harvest.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2011-03-04 1:34 PM (#355234 - in reply to #355219)
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Don't get me wrong - I think the CA guitars are pretty nice. The Cargo travel guitars are outstanding, and several other models I've played have all been good. In fact, I was close to getting one before the OFCII became available. I was more responding to the thoughts around why Ovation/Adamas can't economically justify building a guitar like the Q. I think the jury is still out on whether the CA line of guitars will survive in the long term ... but I wish them well.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2011-03-04 1:57 PM (#355235 - in reply to #355219)
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The two Q models are phenomenal examples of what can be done with carbon fiber taken to its logical extreme. Unfortunately, the cost to produce a limited run of these rare beauties is said to be so prohibitively expensive that very few enthusiasts could afford the finished product. If the majority of real Ovation fans like us balk at buying top shelf Ovation/Adamas products retailing in the range of $2,500 to $3,000, then just who is going to line up to buy a limited edition all-carbon guitar for, say, four or five times more money? And, as I recall, speculation by some very knowledgeable people as to the estimated cost to reproduce No.s 10 or 12, even if it could actually be done, concluded that it would likely be significantly more than that!
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TAFKAR
Posted 2011-03-04 5:09 PM (#355236 - in reply to #355219)
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Originally posted by Waskel:
Originally posted by TAFKAR:
Call me dumb
Richard, Richard, Richard...
Leading with your chin... are you new here?
Sarge, who says I'm dumb?
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an4340
Posted 2011-03-05 5:52 PM (#355237 - in reply to #355219)
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I always thought of Peavey as an amp manufacturer than guitar.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2011-03-05 7:27 PM (#355238 - in reply to #355219)
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Peavey have been making guitars since the late 70's and the early USA production such as the T60 were killer guitars that still have a cult following. I'm not sure that Peavey are the right company to make CA work, but regardless of that it's good to see a USA-made Composite guitar in production again, and based on the samples I saw at NAMM I want one.
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