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makonnen
Posted 2011-03-19 4:00 PM (#354383)
Subject: Spent an hour in the local rock shop ...


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... noodling with all their acoustics from $200 to $2800. Aria, Yamaha, Korean Ovation, Martin, Taylor, Guild and Larivee.

Normally I would choose a guitar based on brand, model, genre, sound, year, price, comfort, configuration.

But if I were to choose a guitar based on tone alone and NO OTHER FACTOR it would have to be the el-cheapo Yamaha FG700 for $200. I normally would never consider a Yamaha or anything else that is not made in the US. But that acoustic sounded sweet.

Just sayin'
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nikon4004
Posted 2011-03-20 9:08 PM (#354384 - in reply to #354383)
Subject: Re: Spent an hour in the local rock shop ...


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Local GC had the FG700 on sale for 169.00 a few months ago. Oldest son wanted to learn to play. Dollar for dollar sound wise they are a good value. Bought him one with a sunburst finish and he loves it.......
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stonebobbo
Posted 2011-03-21 9:35 PM (#354385 - in reply to #354383)
Subject: Re: Spent an hour in the local rock shop ...



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It's sort of rude to come into an Ovation Fan Club, register as a brand new user, come to the Welcome Center, and pimp another brand of guitar. It's OK in general to talk other guitars, but this just seemed way inappropriate to me.

Just sayin'
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makonnen
Posted 2011-03-22 3:32 PM (#354386 - in reply to #354383)
Subject: Re: Spent an hour in the local rock shop ...


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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
It's sort of rude to come into an Ovation Fan Club, register as a brand new user, come to the Welcome Center, and pimp another brand of guitar. It's OK in general to talk other guitars, but this just seemed way inappropriate to me.

Just sayin'
Ok, thanks for letting me know that. I'll reprimand myself.
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Darkbar
Posted 2011-03-22 4:10 PM (#354387 - in reply to #354383)
Subject: Re: Spent an hour in the local rock shop ...



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It wouldn't even dawn on me to pick up and play a $200 Yamaha, unless I was at someone's house and that was all they had. If I'm at a store with $2800 guitars, I'm "noodling" around with $2800 guitars.

Just sayin'
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FlySig
Posted 2011-03-22 4:15 PM (#354388 - in reply to #354383)
Subject: Re: Spent an hour in the local rock shop ...



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If it had been a USA Ovation instead of Korean.... ;)
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stonebobbo
Posted 2011-03-22 4:18 PM (#354389 - in reply to #354383)
Subject: Re: Spent an hour in the local rock shop ...



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Thanks and don't be too hard on yourself. It's not that we don't like other guitars. I see this thread has been moved from the welcome center place to here so it doesn't carry quite the same sting to those who are looking for Ovation love.

I'm not sure Ovation can really compete in the sub $200 space based on tone ... at that price point I think the strong point for Ovation is durability and long term playability. Moving up is a different story until you hit sorta big money, and then a whole new group of guitars rule the playability and tone game.
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makonnen
Posted 2011-03-26 5:30 AM (#354390 - in reply to #354383)
Subject: Re: Spent an hour in the local rock shop ...


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Maybe I'm a bit out of date with my Ovation product line, but the guy workin' the acoustic guitar room says that Ovation USA's are now limited to Adamas and higher end models.

He tells me that nowadays "US-made Ovations" only have the bowl made in the US and everything else overseas with the exception of really high end models.

I've never owned a non-US made Ovation. And for the price of a used all-US made Ovation I don't see the point in buying a Korean made one.

And aobut buying ... I don't know about you guys but I can't buy an acoustic guitar of the 'bay. Although I bought plenty of electrics sight-unseen. I really need to play the acoustic before buying.
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hwebster
Posted 2011-03-26 9:32 AM (#354391 - in reply to #354383)
Subject: Re: Spent an hour in the local rock shop ...


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Good to know that you have owned Ovations.
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G8r
Posted 2011-03-26 9:49 AM (#354392 - in reply to #354383)
Subject: Re: Spent an hour in the local rock shop ...


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Originally posted by makonnen:
Maybe I'm a bit out of date with my Ovation product line, but the guy workin' the acoustic guitar room says that Ovation USA's are now limited to Adamas and higher end models.
One of the few people "workin' the acoustic room" that actually states something reasonably factual about Ovations.

He tells me that nowadays "US-made Ovations" only have the bowl made in the US and everything else overseas with the exception of really high end models.
Oops, he just contradicted himself, so I guess he really doesn't know what he's talking about and is just blowing smoke up your arse to make himself seem knowledgeable.

I've never owned a non-US made Ovation. And for the price of a used all-US made Ovation I don't see the point in buying a Korean made one.
Couldn't agree more, and you'll find that to be the prevailing sentiment here.

And aobut buying ... I don't know about you guys but I can't buy an acoustic guitar of the 'bay. Although I bought plenty of electrics sight-unseen. I really need to play the acoustic before buying.
That's probably more true for all-wood guitars than it is for Ovations. One of the chief design considerations and build characteristics of Ovation and Adamas guitars is their tonal consistency among individual models. I've done A-B comparisons in stores of 2 identical all-wood guitars that were as different as night and day, but a pair of A-braced Legends, for instance, will sound almost identical. I've bought a number of Ovations from various Internet sources and have never been unhappy with their tone and playability.
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PEZ
Posted 2011-03-30 5:01 AM (#354393 - in reply to #354383)
Subject: Re: Spent an hour in the local rock shop ...



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Location: Nashville TN.
Originally posted by G8r:
Originally posted by makonnen:
Maybe I'm a bit out of date with my Ovation product line, but the guy workin' the acoustic guitar room says that Ovation USA's are now limited to Adamas and higher end models.
One of the few people "workin' the acoustic room" that actually states something reasonably factual about Ovations.

He tells me that nowadays "US-made Ovations" only have the bowl made in the US and everything else overseas with the exception of really high end models.
Oops, he just contradicted himself, so I guess he really doesn't know what he's talking about and is just blowing smoke up your arse to make himself seem knowledgeable.

I've never owned a non-US made Ovation. And for the price of a used all-US made Ovation I don't see the point in buying a Korean made one.
Couldn't agree more, and you'll find that to be the prevailing sentiment here.

And aobut buying ... I don't know about you guys but I can't buy an acoustic guitar of the 'bay. Although I bought plenty of electrics sight-unseen. I really need to play the acoustic before buying.
That's probably more true for all-wood guitars than it is for Ovations. One of the chief design considerations and build characteristics of Ovation and Adamas guitars is their tonal consistency among individual models. I've done A-B comparisons in stores of 2 identical all-wood guitars that were as different as night and day, but a pair of A-braced Legends, for instance, will sound almost identical. I've bought a number of Ovations from various Internet sources and have never been unhappy with their tone and playability.
I have 3 A Braced Ovation 2 deep not cut away and 1 mid bowl. To me they sound very different
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FlySig
Posted 2011-03-30 9:36 AM (#354394 - in reply to #354383)
Subject: Re: Spent an hour in the local rock shop ...



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I've bought almost all Ovations/Adamas sight unseen, and never been unhappy. In the perfect world we could go to our local shop and play a variety of USA O's and A's to select from, but we know that isn't possible.

I would not buy a new all-wood acoustic sight unseen off of eBay.
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