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martinez
Posted 2011-09-28 2:38 PM (#348436)
Subject: Hey All :)


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Hi Guys, Craig here from Manchester England, living in Spain. Saving up now for my first ever Ovation, and will be just about there in about 3 or 4 weeks!!

I dearly want a USA made Elite, either 1778 or 1868 (shallow?)

I have a weird question..I wonder if anyone's asked this!! (I have searched before asking)

Ok, I own a Takamine EN10C, and the depth of the body, as I look down on it from standing, is 12 centimetres....
My question is, is a mid depth bowl a lot slimmer? or should I be looking at the shallow ones? anyone got any actual measurments?
I find my Tak a bit wide when I'm standing, it annoys me at gigs.

Does anyone have the SSB? would you say it loses anything at all when gigged? if it sounds as good as any other Ovation plugged in it could be the one, I'm not bothered about playing acoustic...got the Tak for that.

Thanks if anyone has any comments :-)
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martinez
Posted 2011-09-28 3:17 PM (#348437 - in reply to #348436)
Subject: Re: Hey All :)


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Oh forgot, there seem to be more models...of the same thing??
6778LX...mid depth bowl...isn't it the same as a 1778LX?
Also, "6868"...that might be a non Usa..?

It's confusing!! :-((
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2011-09-28 3:39 PM (#348438 - in reply to #348436)
Subject: Re: Hey All :)


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As my wife found out a few years ago, when she thought I was going to buy one of each model of Ovation, there are hundreds. There are 4 or 5 different depths. Keep searching through the old posts here and look at the Ovation archives and you should be able to answer your questions and several more that will come up.
Opinions on bowl depths are like .... You know how that goes. There are great guitars in Spain. Maybe you should get a little flamenco style.
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martinez
Posted 2011-09-28 3:46 PM (#348439 - in reply to #348436)
Subject: Re: Hey All :)


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Thanks Mark, I guess there are loads of models yeah, I've at least narrowed it down now to the Elite, USA made, either mid depth or SSB...so nearly there.

Guitars (as lots of other stuff) are a complete rip-off in Spain mate...hence ebay USA...

Already have a little flamenco one too :-)) not much good for doing The Stones and Oasis at gis lol
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2011-09-28 3:47 PM (#348440 - in reply to #348436)
Subject: Re: Hey All :)



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For gigging, the SSB models are superb. They're primarily all I use these days.
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martinez
Posted 2011-09-28 4:06 PM (#348441 - in reply to #348436)
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Cheers for the comment Prof!

I'm actually buying pretty blind too, as here where I live there are hardly any guitar shops, even the big ones in the bigger cities don't seem to stock Ovations, so I keep looking for any videos on the net to show how each of these sounds....not having much luck finding a video of the SSB tho :(

Cheers for the help so far!
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Beal
Posted 2011-09-28 4:36 PM (#348442 - in reply to #348436)
Subject: Re: Hey All :)



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are you on the Tak site?
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martinez
Posted 2011-09-28 4:38 PM (#348443 - in reply to #348436)
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Tak site? no mate, not on there.
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scott lamperd
Posted 2011-09-28 4:41 PM (#348444 - in reply to #348436)
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Comfort of the bowl depends on how big your bowl is. Me, I need a super shallow :)

scott lamperd b c (before computers)
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martinez
Posted 2011-09-28 4:49 PM (#348445 - in reply to #348436)
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Ha! I think it will suit me too then....

Does anyone who owns a SSB think you lose ANY of the full guitar sound quality when gigging? or would you say they compare well with any other guitar?

Cheers!
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2011-09-28 6:32 PM (#348446 - in reply to #348436)
Subject: Re: Hey All :)



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Originally posted by martinez:
Ha! I think it will suit me too then....

Does anyone who owns a SSB think you lose ANY of the full guitar sound quality when gigging? or would you say they compare well with any other guitar?

Cheers!
I have a lot to choose from including some of the best deep bowl models ever made by Ovation and Adamas, plus others. I still prefer the SSB models for giging and. to my ears, hear absolutely no diminishment of tone. When it was time to order a custom guitar to serve as my primary gigging instrument of choice, I had the option to select from nearly every feature ever offered on an Ovation/Adamas guitar. Among other things, I chose to make it an SSB. That's just my opinion.
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martinez
Posted 2011-09-28 6:42 PM (#348447 - in reply to #348436)
Subject: Re: Hey All :)


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Thanks a lot for the detailed reply!! Very helpful!
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2011-09-28 7:20 PM (#348448 - in reply to #348436)
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Brad, I totally disagree with you about the difference in plugged in tone between SSB and deeper bowls. I can hear a huge difference. BUT, to qualify that somewhat, any difference is irrelevant in a medium to high volume band situation with a rhythm section when an SSB (or in my case Vipers) really come into their own. For solo or small ensemble work I much prefer the plugged-in sound of deepbowl guitars and I think the pay-off of a slightly lower feedback threshold is more than worth it.
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stephent28
Posted 2011-09-29 3:42 AM (#348449 - in reply to #348436)
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I have to agree with Paul but I have never been fond of SSB guitars....but that is because I like mine to sound good both plugged and unplugged and I just can't wrap my head around the SSB unplugged sound.
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martinez
Posted 2011-09-29 5:13 AM (#348450 - in reply to #348436)
Subject: Re: Hey All :)


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Cheers guys, it's all interesting stuff!

I found this guy playing a 6778LX and fell in love with the guitar instantly! Looking at the bowl size it looks like it would be more comfortable than my Tak for a standing 2 hour gig. Well, the sound speaks for itself!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYByRnMbExo

I would love to find the same video but with a SSB to see if there are any differences...to MY ear :)

Thanks for the support people. Ovation is coming my way SOOON!!
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Auriemma
Posted 2011-09-29 7:56 AM (#348451 - in reply to #348436)
Subject: Re: Hey All :)



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Re-registered
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martinez
Posted 2011-09-29 8:24 AM (#348452 - in reply to #348436)
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What does "re-registered" mean? the vid I put?
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2011-10-01 12:15 PM (#348453 - in reply to #348436)
Subject: Re: Hey All :)



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Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
[A]ny difference is irrelevant in a medium to high volume band situation with a rhythm section when an SSB (or in my case Vipers) really come into their own. For solo or small ensemble work I much prefer the plugged-in sound of deepbowl guitars and I think the pay-off of a slightly lower feedback threshold is more than worth it.
We're on the same page, Paul. Most of my gigging is in a five piece band backing three singers where I am the only guitar playing rhythm and leads. I use SSBs, Vipers, and the VXT most of the time, and a custom Tak 760 now and again.
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martinez
Posted 2011-10-02 8:38 AM (#348454 - in reply to #348436)
Subject: Re: Hey All :)


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Cheers for the replies people, I think it's looking as if the mid depth bowl will be the most versatile for what I want....

Still can't find any actual dimensions on the net ANYWHERE of the actual bowl measurements
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