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ProfessorBB
Posted 2011-12-30 2:18 PM (#344983)
Subject: Issue with metal frame pedal boards . . .



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Can be problematic, like those offered by Pedal Train. Metal cable connectors can somehow short out the signal when they come into contact with the metal frame. Don’t ask me how or why, but it has happened too often and it always catches me off guard. The deterioration in the signal is very similar to the sound occurring when you lose a critical tube in an amp, or your active preamp battery goes dead. I change out the battery, then start chasing down cables, only then to remember to check the metal cable jack contacts. Sure enough. I carry black gaffer’s tape in my gig bag specifically for this purpose.
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stephent28
Posted 2011-12-30 4:10 PM (#344984 - in reply to #344983)
Subject: Re: Issue with metal frame pedal boards . . .



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I use a Pedal Pad and have never had any problems.

maybe just lucky but each pedal does sit on an adjustable metal plate.
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elginacres
Posted 2011-12-30 6:25 PM (#344985 - in reply to #344983)
Subject: Re: Issue with metal frame pedal boards . . .


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Fixing it prof like a pro....gaffers tape too...no duct tape here...too much residue
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noah
Posted 2011-12-31 5:16 AM (#344986 - in reply to #344983)
Subject: Re: Issue with metal frame pedal boards . . .



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Brad, is the metal frame of the pedal board grounded to an AC outlet-strip?
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2012-01-02 4:14 PM (#344987 - in reply to #344983)
Subject: Re: Issue with metal frame pedal boards . . .



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Originally posted by noah:
Brad, is the metal frame of the pedal board grounded to an AC outlet-strip?
Not purposely, but I'm running two surge protecting power strips underneath the frame and I do note that both strips are metal and in contact with the pedal frame. Its complicated. I probably need to uncomplicate matters a bit.
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noah
Posted 2012-01-02 5:48 PM (#344988 - in reply to #344983)
Subject: Re: Issue with metal frame pedal boards . . .



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I'm curious... with your rig running... carefully take a voltmeter reading from the metal barrel of the connector to the metal frame of the pedal board.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2012-01-02 6:54 PM (#344989 - in reply to #344983)
Subject: Re: Issue with metal frame pedal boards . . .



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Originally posted by noah:
I'm curious... with your rig running... carefully take a voltmeter reading from the metal barrel of the connector to the metal frame of the pedal board.
Will do . . . but won't be back with the board until later in the week.
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noah
Posted 2012-01-02 11:17 PM (#344990 - in reply to #344983)
Subject: Re: Issue with metal frame pedal boards . . .



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Just be careful... I'm wondering if you have two electrical ground paths and they are not at the same potential... the AC outlet strips/metal pedalboard frame and your guitar/amp/pedals.

I like Pedaltrain pedalboards, but I could not find anyone addressing grounding of their metal frames.

It's a new year and a great time for an electrical safety reminder...

Keep your heart out of electrical loops! i.e., don't hold an energized object in your left hand while grounding your right hand. At least get in the habit of putting one hand in your pocket, while using the back of your other hand to "sample" metal surfaces.

Use a power conditioner that monitors for correct polarity and ground integrity of the mains supply, or at least use a good outlet checker. Don't blindly trust the power. GFCI protection is mainstream nowadays. If a GFCI keeps tripping, don't bypass it, find the piece of equipment with the fault.

Make sure your vintage amps and other AC powered gear have been electrically updated for safety.

Here's one of my favorite starters... I\'m Shocked - Why am I Getting a Tingle?
and another... Killer Gig - How to avoid electrocution on stage.
and another... Shock Hazards
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