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| Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | I saw this, and I just Had to put it out for comment... I can see doing this if you are just building with what you've got... But these tuners look Brand New. You can get Regular tuning machines all-day-long on eBarf... 1112 with Banjo Tuners How well do good "Banjo/Ukulele toonas hold there tune anyway? | ||
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | These are found on 30's-40's era vintage instruments. I tried to fit them on a Legend and couldn't do it. The headstock was too narrow and the D and E buttons would hit each other. This guy must have found some with smaller buttons. The Grover and 5-Star are pretty nice and they'll hold tune just fine. They are only 4:1 or 5:1 ratio, however. | ||
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| Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Oh, I didn't know that they had any ratio... I thought they just went through and were held by friction... Learn sumptin new everyday! | ||
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| Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Some have ratio, some don't. Not sure about these on the Ovation for sale. | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15682 Location: SoCal | There are players who change tunings in the middle of a tune who feel that these are easier to use than regular tuners. Adrian Legg uses Keith tuners on his guitars because they have stops in them making it very easy for him to go right to the tuning he wants between and during tunes. I doubt if these tuners were put on just for looks.... | ||
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| Capo Guy |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 4394 Location: East Tennessee | Didn't Adrian Legg play an Adamas with tuners like that? | ||
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| Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Yes. | ||
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| Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | The are called "planetary" tuners and they are geared, not friction pegs, and as Dave said have a fairly low gear ratio. Dave is correct and the holes for 3rd and 4th string tuners are too close together to work properly with standard buttons, and I'm pretty sure these are standard buttons not smaller replacements. It works on an Adamas 1 because the headstock is not tapered as much as a standard Ovation headstock. The tuners Legg used were either Bill Keith banjo tuners or the Schaller "Scruggs peg" version, both have pre-set stops to move between 2 pitches. The ones on this guitar are standard planetary gear banjo pegs. | ||
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| Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Here's a photo of Legg with the Ban-jer tuners on his Adamas 1 ... ![]() | ||
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| brainslag |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 1138 Location: CT | For one thing, that guitar looks newer than '74, with no TRC, no 5 piece neck, blue label and Black backed headstock logo. For another, I thought banjo tuners with a gear ratio had offset button shafts in relation to the post. These are straight, are there actually gears in that small space?? ....oh, also they look completely wrong on an ovation.. | ||
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| Mr. Ovation |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7247 Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | The look kinda grows on ya, and for people who change tunings all the time... as Brian Johnson would say.... "It just makes good good sense." | ||
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by brainslag: Some are offset, some are not. Depends on the design. Here's the one's I use on a few of my ukuleles by 5-Star. They're not offset and have a 4:1 gear ratio. They are outstanding tuners. I thought banjo tuners with a gear ratio had offset button shafts in relation to the post. 5-STAR TUNERS | ||
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