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| Sorry if a scarred anyone. I had a rattle in that plastic bridge cover and in the process of repairing this weak spot I decided to simply make the replacement piece out of wood. It looks fantastic in person. And is very functional.
I figure I may make a replacement pickguard as well Mike. I am worried about the originality of this instrument and I do not want to put finger and pick scratches on this pickguard. This walnut pickguard is laminated by the way... it has a thin layer of black & white that runs all the way round the outside edge. I want to keep this one nice.
I think when I am done with it I will have replaced the walnut truss rod cover and the tailpiece cover with the same ebony or other dark wood. I will carve them with similiar patterns and I think this will bring out the contrast that is missing with to much of the same kinds of wood on everything.
In the meantime Sam is planning on mailing me the original balck plastic truss cover and the knobs. These were original as well. Thanks for the offer of the replacement bridge. But I still have the one this came with and it is not damaged in any way and can be returned to this guitar quite easily.
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Location: Upper Left USA | Cool Randy.
If possible, I'd like to see what the underside of that PG looks like, as in electronics and all.
There are a few of us that would like to see if a solid state reissue of the electronics for D/BW/Preacher, etc., could be made available!
And yes, the Deacon neck is a long lost secret! I wish I had more of them! |
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| You got it... Hey I was just going through my old lumber rack and I found a nice piece of figured walnut. I might try to make the tailpiece and the truss rod cover with the carving this week. I think I might just hit them with a little darker stain this will bring out the contrast I want between the woods.
I will send photo's when I get to taht point Thanks Mike. These are wonderful guitars I am very pleased I chose this one. Sam was right it's expensive but Well worth the money.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Woody, how's that neck I sent you working out? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | The neck is outstanding! I have dressed the frets and I need to finish working the body and PG. I have all of next week off and I hpe to get some quality garage time.
Projects include:
Limited Body to 12 string Deacon neck with Phat Cats.
Viper Neck to scallopped Viper Body with SD designed HBs.
Deacon to six string conversion with Air Nortons.
Mr. G's Preacher body and PG.
TRC's for Ovations and Tacoma's.
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| I am having a hard time trying to find a good close up shot of the Custom Legend bridge carving. Not owning one of these myself, I have to go by a photo to do a few carving details that will match what the Ovation creators have been using to detail their walnut bridges. Could I trouble someone to post or email me a good close up bridge photo that would be printable. Thanks I can't belive that auctions on Ebay this week they have some nice shots but not one good close up of the bridges?
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| Perfect! Very nice old Custom bridge carving there! Thanx. Randy
Check out the simple drawings I loaded to the gallery I did these as a guide for me to work from, to make these carved pieces. I will make these out of Walnut and use some ebony stain on them to match the nice black fret board that I believe is a rosewood? on my Deacon. I will carve one set of truss & bridge covers in a traditional Ovation style similiar to their Custom legend carvings. And for fun another set that looks very "Hippy" late 60's style wording....THE DEACON.....BY OVATION..... |
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Location: Mechanicsburg,Pa. | Originally posted by MWoody:
Cool Randy.
If possible, I'd like to see what the underside of that PG looks like, as in electronics and all.
There are a few of us that would like to see if a solid state reissue of the electronics for D/BW/Preacher, etc., could be made available!
And yes, the Deacon neck is a long lost secret! I wish I had more of them! Yes!, I too would like to see the electronics part of the underside of that pickgaurd. I thought I might give my 3 years of vocational electronics a brush up and try to reproduce what I don"t have. Making circuit boards and such. I'm sure BruDev could help keep on track in such an endevour. I wonder what his hourly rate is? |
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| You guy's do realize my guitar is not a standard electronics set up?
My personal take on this, is to "have a look at a standard Deacon" there must be a bunch of them in this group that have not touched electronically??? right? That would be the set up you would want if you are trying to get your guitars working.
Or is this a modification?
If so, the set up Jim did on this Deacon is quite unique and it makes it a true one of a kind. I am quite sure you see the point I am trying to carefully state here.
Now I'd be glad to help a member fix an old deacon but my guitar still would not be the best choice from which to copy electronically. The Standard deacons electronics are more straight forward and would be much easier to use.
If I get to the pickguard I may venture a few shots.....but really have you seen my photo's????? Not the best of quality there. You may end up with more questions than answers.
If you guy's are actually looking to make an "electronics reissue" I am really not sure if I want this one to be the model? Have not put much thought in it. But I do know I have more of an incentive to keep this guitar as unique as it is. I sure hope you see my point and I think you would if you were in my position. THis would take some consideration.
I am a woodcarver and if any of you ever have an interest in some of my work then please let me know. I am sure we all have ovation items and specific tallents to trade around etc.
Hope your Christmas's were full.
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| I am offering this very special ovation solid body to any "member" for a certain amount of monetary compensation. You can buy a lot of things with money but there are only one of these around. You can only buy something like this when an owner decides to let someone else possess it. This is your chance.
I have plans to redo my collection of Adamas's with factory customs. And my Electric guitar needs have become more simple, I have a Jimy Nagi custom made electric up for sale ($1000) as well as this great Deacon. I will use the money generated from these to buy my final electric for gigging, and the cash left will go to household expenses. At my age I now know where my musical talents and tastes will be used and I am molding my equipment to better serve this purpose.
This Deacon is the "ONE"
I am not sure if I will offer it on ebay ever.........I should not have to, and it would be a shame!
Someone in here (and I know there are a few of you who have this kind of $ to tap from) need to own this.
Still plays like it ever did and depending upon the effects your using...these toggle switches, Mr. Rickard added, do all kinds of weird things. I still do not know exactly what its capable of. Jim was, no doubt, a true electronics genius.
Email me at home for a price if your seriously interested. it is not cheap but like the J.M. Deacon that was built to look like this one, a true collectors Deacon in a class of its own.
rldecker@frontiernet.net
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Location: CT | Originally posted by samova:
[QB] Jim also chose to use a nonbound neck with dot inlays.
Sooo.. Doesn't that make this a Breadwinner? They are the same guitar, except for the necks. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | I believe all Breadwinners had painted bodies.
Could be wrong!!
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Location: CT | OK, that makes sense. Instead of the stains and sunbursts. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I think the BW Ltd was a natural mohagany, no? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | The limited body was finished like a deacon. Natural mahog or greyburst. Dave |
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Location: GA USA | My Deacon has a painted body, gloss black. When I bought it from Samova, I asked "Isn't it a Breadwinner?" He said "Nope, it is a Deacon". Good enough for me. If anybody knows a Deacon from a 'Winner, it's Sam. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | The main difference between the Deacon and Breadwinner is the Deacon was a "Fancy" breadwinner.
I guess it just depends on how far you want to take "fancy". Normally it meant the bound neck with inlays and a stained body. There were a "couple/few" black gloss bodies done. Either neck went on them. Are they Deacon's or Breadwinners?... yep.
I guess if you wanted to be accurate, look under the bridge or the bridge pickup. They usually put the model number there with a felt-tip. |
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| Am I mistaken that the Bread winners had non powered pickups for a time as well? while the Deacons were built specifically as the "new" technology battery electronics.
Also ther necks I usually see on the Deacon has the little carved (like Miles said) Fancy feature on the high end of the neck. Was this feature available on the standard bread winners.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Nice bridge, what's it doing here?
Breadweinners were bowl paint of some color, Deacons were gloss.
Both were active electronics.
There were some non-active breads made for the partridge fammine but they were really just props for the show although they did work. Maybe a dozen made. |
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| I was looking for a good photo to do a carving on the wood tailpiece covers I made for this deacon. This was a couple a years ago and I have owned and sold two great Custom Legends since I asked for a photo back then.
I brought this thread back to life to better explain this great guitar of Jim's that I just sold Beal. Now that I look at it I guess it would have been better had I mentioned this was an older posting? My Bad.
When you go back to Florida, can I come with you?
I am freekin cold.
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Did they use the same pickups for the non active PF Breadwinners?
Randy for your info it's 30degC here today.
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