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Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay

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prairiedog
Posted 2008-07-02 7:55 PM (#302611)
Subject: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay


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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220251900884

I've got one of these - a great axe. It looks like this one will go at a premium though.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-07-02 8:15 PM (#302612 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay


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Define "premium"...
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prairiedog
Posted 2008-07-02 8:30 PM (#302613 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay


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Who knows? It's at $330 with 4 days to go. I paid $375 for mine, which is very nice, but not "flawless". What would you think the guitar up for bid is worth?
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prairiedog
Posted 2008-07-03 8:10 AM (#302614 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay


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I wanted to clarify that the guitar on eBay is not mine, but thought somebody on this site might want to be aware of it.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-07-03 9:14 AM (#302615 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay


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Originally posted by prairiedog:
Who knows? It's at $330 with 4 days to go. I paid $375 for mine, which is very nice, but not "flawless". What would you think the guitar up for bid is worth?
I normally don't speculate on prices, but if I had to guess, I would say that the final price range could be anywhere betwee $450-$650, probably more towards the high end. And whoever buys it is going to get a terrific guitar at a bargin price....
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-07-03 9:58 AM (#302616 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay
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These are nice. Worth far more than what it'll probably sell for.

Personal opinion but the one to keep an eye out for is the reissue. Man I regret selling mine. This was a case where the reissue really surpassed the original, which is not always the way it goes. And the price was stupid cheap.

Dave
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prairiedog
Posted 2008-07-03 5:14 PM (#302617 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay


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Aside from the great color of the 1651, what the difference between this and any other Legend of that vintage?
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-07-03 5:19 PM (#302618 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay
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A braced
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prairiedog
Posted 2008-07-03 5:40 PM (#302619 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay


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prairiedog
Posted 2008-07-03 5:42 PM (#302620 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay


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All of a sudden there's another one on the Bay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ovation-Model-1651-6-string-w-OHSC_W0QQitemZ250...
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-07-03 5:54 PM (#302621 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay



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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
A braced
+ a AAA top (whatever that's worth). Did the Legends of that vintage have the stereo output like the 1651?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-07-03 6:47 PM (#302622 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay


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Yup...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-07-03 6:55 PM (#302623 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay


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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
These are nice. Worth far more than what it'll probably sell for.

Personal opinion but the one to keep an eye out for is the reissue. Man I regret selling mine. This was a case where the reissue really surpassed the original, which is not always the way it goes. And the price was stupid cheap.

Dave
IMHO, the reason the reissue is better than the original is that the construction techniques are better. The reissue has the new neck bracing system rather than the truss rod, it has the thinner finish on the top, and it has the better electronics......
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-07-03 10:00 PM (#302624 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay



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...and the microwhatever (lighter) bowl (which I think has more presence ... more like the old shiny bowls). It does have the truss rod ... dual action if I'm not mistaken. I've been playing my reissue a LOT lately ... I feel sooooo lucky to have scored one of these.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2008-07-07 1:48 AM (#302625 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay


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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Man I regret selling mine.
Me, too. The JL3, if any of my past guitars, was "the one that got away".
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-07-08 6:34 PM (#302626 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay



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One reason to go after an original might be in the event it has been played a lot but in all other respects carefully handled over the years. These things develop wonderful tone over the years with lots of playing. I attribute this to the fact that mine continues to measure well against more expensive and perhaps technically superior models that have significantly less playing time.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2008-07-08 6:44 PM (#302627 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay



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Only had a chance to play one of the early ones for a couple of minutes...it was different than the JL3. The primary difference that you see and feel is the bowl...JL3 is a lot lighter which I attribute to the bowl. You can feel the vibration in the JL3 bowl, appears thinner. As already said, improved pre-amp and truss rod.

Of course, this is in addition to the fact that you don't have the wear of about twenty-eight years. Negative, JL3 is going to cost $500-700 over what this one sold for.
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prairiedog
Posted 2008-07-11 8:35 AM (#302628 - in reply to #302611)
Subject: Re: Nice looking 1651 John Lennon on eBay


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Good points. I'm with BB though. My 1651's 27 year old AAA top produces exceptional sound.
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