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Joe Rock
Posted 2008-07-22 5:43 PM (#29395)
Subject: Breadwinner???


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Hi, I'm new here, but I am trying to "fix" a Breadwinner for a friend. When I removed the pickguard, the black wire from the neck pickup was hanging loose and not apparent where it was attached. Does anyone know? This guitar looks like it has been modified (electronics). THere is no pre-amp circuit board, there are two volume pots and one tone, a 3 way pup selector switch, a DPDT switch and 2 SPST switches. There is a 9V battery, connected between input ground and bridge ground. This can't do anything, can it? Has anyone seen anything like this on a Breadwinner. If you know where the black wire goes on a stock Breadwinner, that would be a big help or, a wiring diagram? Thx
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2008-07-22 5:57 PM (#29396 - in reply to #29395)
Subject: Re: Breadwinner???



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Welcome. Diagrams can be found HERE at the Breadwinner Fanpage.

And there are some experts here too.
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numbfingers
Posted 2008-07-22 6:53 PM (#29397 - in reply to #29395)
Subject: Re: Breadwinner???


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Pictures - or links to pictures- would help.

If there's no circuit board, and no extra components dangling that might be a homebrew preamp, then the battery isn't doing anything. Especially if it's connected to two ground points. ??? The original setup would have used two 9V batteries.

The black wires are usually ground. There might be two black wires from each pickup, one from the coil, one to the case. Both would be connected to ground. I wonder if your pickups are original.

I don't know what's up with the switches, either. There were two mounted on the original circuit board. DPDT doesn't seem useful by itself. I'd call the standard 3-way guitar switch 3PST on-on-on. If you have two SPST switches and nothing is working anyway, you could connect a pickup to each one, then connect the outputs together to the vol/tone controls, just to get something working.

Pictures - or links to pictures- would help. :)

-Steve W.
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numbfingers
Posted 2008-07-22 10:16 PM (#29398 - in reply to #29395)
Subject: Re: Breadwinner???


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Oops, didn't read your post carefully enough. I missed the 3-way switch. I suppose that would be the first thing to get working.
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Joe Rock
Posted 2008-07-22 11:10 PM (#29399 - in reply to #29395)
Subject: Re: Breadwinner???


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Thanks everybody for your input and especially the link to the wiring diagrams. Obviously, this thing is whacked by too many Jr Einsteins. Since there is no active electronics in this thing, I think what I will do is eliminate everything except the two volume controls, tone control, pup selector switch and buy some pickguard material. I will basically wire it like the first wiring diagram that Captain Lovehandles gave me in the link above without any active circuits. Unless someone knows where I can get these PC boards at a resonable price. Thanks again........Joe
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numbfingers
Posted 2008-07-22 11:38 PM (#29400 - in reply to #29395)
Subject: Re: Breadwinner???


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That first wiring diagram is for a UKII, not a Breadwinner. The UKII is set up with 2 vol, 2 tone, and series/parallel coil switches on each pickup. A bit different than the Breadwinner. You should be able to use a standard 3 way switch, 1 vol, 1 tone wiring scheme. The DPDT switch might be useful to switch one pickup out of phase.

"Mr. Ovation" from this forum has pickguards available, for example eBay item 160036375068. The preamps are hard to find.

-Steve W.
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