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Mitzdawg
Posted 2006-04-30 7:12 PM (#256792)
Subject: Skunk Stripe
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Hey folks,
Does the lack of a neck skunk stripe on an early US ('77) Balladeer with a black neck, or on a Celeb, (wood looking neck) mean the neck is one of those funky Urelite thingies?

Is the presence of the skunk stripe the clear indicator of a "quality" or all wood neck?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-04-30 7:50 PM (#256793 - in reply to #256792)
Subject: Re: Skunk Stripe


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Around the time the K-Bar was introduced the Balladeer and Custom Balladeer lost the laminations and went to 2 piece Mahogany necks. My guess is that 70's Balladeers with a black finish neck and a truss-rod cover would be 5-piece mahogany/maple (take the cover off, you should be able to see the laminations) No offshore guitars have had multi-laminated necks. Matrix/Medallion/Applause/Ultra had Urelite and alumimum necks which appear to be one-piece wood to the untrained eye.
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Beal
Posted 2006-04-30 8:32 PM (#256794 - in reply to #256792)
Subject: Re: Skunk Stripe



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Paul, there were some of the Balladeer Specials that had a rosewood fingerboard and foam back. There weren't many of these.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-04-30 8:50 PM (#256795 - in reply to #256792)
Subject: Re: Skunk Stripe


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Yep, forgot about that one. You know, the Balladeer and Custom Balladeer losing the 5-piece neck was almost as sacreligious as when Fender took away the angled input jack and second tone control on the Strat. Ah, the 80's - The Golden Years. NOT!
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Mitzdawg
Posted 2006-04-30 9:25 PM (#256796 - in reply to #256792)
Subject: Re: Skunk Stripe
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Thanks for the answers. What do you make of this?
How to tell a Balladeer Special from a regular Balladeer?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7410303629&...
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-04-30 9:33 PM (#256797 - in reply to #256792)
Subject: Re: Skunk Stripe


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The foil label is the giveaway. It's a late 70's model 1111 white top (6) Balladeer. Regular wooden neck, probably 5-piece laminate. Looks a little tatty but these were quality quitars, then and now
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-04-30 9:38 PM (#256798 - in reply to #256792)
Subject: Re: Skunk Stripe


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No need for a truss rod cover on a foam neck.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-04-30 9:41 PM (#256799 - in reply to #256792)
Subject: Re: Skunk Stripe


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Mitzdawg, don't buy that one. I've got a '73 (or is it a '72 -- gotta check) 1111-4 that's in perfect condition. Not a mark on her. She's about to go up on ebay. If you or anybody else is interested, the price is $300 plus shipping. Let me know if you have interest. I can send some photos. There may be some in my gallery.
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Mitzdawg
Posted 2006-04-30 9:51 PM (#256800 - in reply to #256792)
Subject: Re: Skunk Stripe
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moody et al,
I'm lurking on that one because it needs work, and I've got one successful bridge replacement under my belt; going for two. I've been buying fixer-uppers to practice/learn on and moving on to the next one. Love 'em, etc.

What I really want is one that's been sat on! Good bowl and quality neck, so I can try to replace the top.

I've been trying to weed out the foam necks - lack of a TRC is a good way to tell - thanks!
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-05-01 6:54 AM (#256801 - in reply to #256792)
Subject: Re: Skunk Stripe


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Originally posted by Mitzdawg:


I've been trying to weed out the foam necks - lack of a TRC is a good way to tell - thanks!
Not really. When the Balladeer and C/Balladeer went to the 2-piece neck and K-bar they lost the truss rod cover. Add Balladeer Specials and Ultras in the equation and it's not conclusive at all.
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