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wdfoto
Posted 2006-06-03 11:33 PM (#252422)
Subject: black or brown


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Is there a difference between the black or brown backs on the elite guitars?
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-06-04 12:06 AM (#252423 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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Yeah, they are a different color! :D
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wdfoto
Posted 2006-06-04 12:22 AM (#252424 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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OK!!!! Does the color mean anything in the model or options on a guitar.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-06-04 12:42 AM (#252425 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown



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I don't believe there is any significance.

Maybe Witko, Moody, or CWK2 might have a more definitive answer.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-06-04 7:45 AM (#252426 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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I think I remember CWKII saying, generally, brown bowl=gold tuning machines, black bowl=silver


....and according to Witko, Black bowl with white bowl paint with Sunburst top sound best....
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2006-06-04 8:02 AM (#252427 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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It was just different colored enamel for different levels of guitars. The bowl is exactly the same.
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Joyful Noise
Posted 2006-06-04 11:07 AM (#252428 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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Sometimes the brown paint will start to flake off. :(
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-06-04 4:31 PM (#252429 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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In the mid 70's Legend and Custom Legend they did black bowls on the sunbursts and brown on the naturals. But there were mix ups as well. The bowls are identical in structure. Dave
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-06-04 4:35 PM (#252430 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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Actually, the color of the bowl contributes greatly to the bowl's reasonate frequency. It's like using balanced gold washers on your guitar. It all contributes to the overall tone.

Everybody knows that the brown bowls sound better. And the brown bowls from 1983 sound best. It was a good year for brown.
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-06-04 4:46 PM (#252431 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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Moody has no idea what he's talking about! To him brown vs. black only depends on what he's had for dinner last night. Dave
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cliff
Posted 2006-06-04 4:54 PM (#252432 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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Unless he wakes up with a HavanaOmlette . . .
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-06-04 6:12 PM (#252433 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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Actually,

The brown bowls sound more "organic". The black bowls are for precision performance and power chords (how else could Moody sound so good only knowing three chords??

At a Top (or Bowl) Secret research facility, a Crack(pot)team of researchers....

have been pushing the boundaries (and coming out of the closet) with bold new ideas to improve the sound of these nearly faultless guitars. The team, (code named Fishsticks) was recently caught on film (their identities need to be concealed for allot of reasons, except for the guy in the coconut bra. That's Brad) at a "Drop Point" for their latest project (code named Freddy).

Guys,

This is the "BIG ONE". Readily available (no more hunting around for those rare and elusive string tubes), much safer (no more sniffing white Krylon fumes), Easily installed (ever try to get the top back on corectly after lining the bowl with aluminium foil?). Available in a variety of models to suit your playing style (pictured here is the "blues model"), Now even YOU can change the "orientation" of your unplugged sound by turning it over and gentley screwing it from behind.... :D :p :D :p




No Llamas were harmed in the development or testing of this device, But some sacrifice had to be made so we killed an MOB, and it's better off for it.
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-06-04 6:36 PM (#252434 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE COLLECTIVELY LOST OUR MINDS ...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-06-04 6:43 PM (#252435 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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You think we've just now lost our minds??? Hell, I was thinking that when the disucssion turned to string tubes.....
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2006-06-04 7:02 PM (#252436 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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:D Eccellent :D
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Beal
Posted 2006-06-04 9:31 PM (#252437 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown



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Oh Yes, We're getting there now.
In fact, I think we've arrived, well some anyway.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2006-06-04 9:34 PM (#252438 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown



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and there was criticism of the "thread that wouldn't die" :eek: :p :eek:
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Waskel
Posted 2006-06-05 12:57 PM (#252439 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown



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That one started out inane. This one took 3 or 4 posts.
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fillhixx
Posted 2006-06-05 1:02 PM (#252440 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown



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I thought the brown guitars were an attempt to find an accoustic equivalent of Eddie Van Halens brown sound! :cool:
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-06-05 1:06 PM (#252441 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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The reason the brown bowls came about it Glen's mom, when she started working at the factory, made a mistake with the bowl enamel and some bowls came out brown. After trying them, and discovering the better sound, these bowls went on the top quality guitars.
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brainslag
Posted 2006-06-05 1:23 PM (#252442 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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Collectively? I lost my mind individually ages ago. My string tubes just got back from the shop with a complete vers. 2.01b upgrade, and I couldn't be happier with the results.

As far as bowls go, here's the scientific explanation:

1. Black = Bowl
2. Brown = Bowl with paint

Some bowls got paint, some didn't, end of story.
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BluesSailor
Posted 2006-06-05 1:41 PM (#252443 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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It can be summed up with,

"We're all here because we're not all there"!
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fillhixx
Posted 2006-06-05 5:46 PM (#252444 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown



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Originally posted by BluesSailor:
"We're all here because we're not all there"!
Bowser & Blue wrote the song, and dozen's of others that apply likewise.
Bald Is Beautiful
She Wants Me (to go away)
and the ever popular
We're Folking Good!
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Jeff
Posted 2006-06-05 5:54 PM (#252445 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown


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What about the string tubes...? :confused:
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GregoryS.
Posted 2006-06-05 6:34 PM (#252446 - in reply to #252422)
Subject: Re: black or brown
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Black v. Brown v. String Tubes

While this does not solve ALL of our problems, the answers we HAVE found only serve to raise a whole new set of questions.

In some ways we feel we are as confused as ever; but I believe we are confused on a higher level and about more important things.

String tubes...now in red, black and brown...see your local store for details...not valid in any of the 50 states...
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