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GLW
Posted 2006-09-30 10:44 AM (#238163)
Subject: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question


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Hello everyone. I've been in lurk mode for a little while, reading a few threads and checking out the lay of the land.

I'm now the proud owner of two Ovation guitars. I have an Ovation Celebrity CP 247 which I absolutely love. It has great sound projection but not a hulking great body like with most acoustic guitars.

Then yesterday I took delivery of my second Ovation. This one is a Breadwinner or Deacon (I'm not entirely sure which - I'll get onto that in a mo) and lookng up the serial number I'd say it dates from late 1974 or the beginning of 1975.

OK, so it a Breadwinner or a Deacon? It doesn't have the natural finish, the bound fingerboard or diamond fingerboard inlays that you'd expext to find on a Deacon, but then again it has the small Deacon-style scratchplate rather than the larger Breadwinner one, and it has a smooth solid black finish, unlike the "textured" finish on Breadwinners.

Anyone here know what I've got?

Here's a link to a photo: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/turquoisemoleeater/guitars/o...

I've tried searching the other threads here but can't find any reference to this model. Apologies in advance if it has been discussed before.
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Steve
Posted 2006-09-30 10:49 AM (#238164 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question


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Breadwinner. The Deacon has a diamond-shaped enlays and Ivory-bound fingerboards. (At least mine does..)
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GLW
Posted 2006-09-30 11:19 AM (#238165 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question


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Yeah, but what about the other inconsistencies? Or is it a particular model of Breadwinner?
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Steve
Posted 2006-09-30 11:29 AM (#238166 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question


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I'm not familiar with all the variations in the models, so it is either a up-graded Breadwinner or a low-end Deacon. I don't remember any Breadwinner having gold-plated saddles and tuners, and I don't remember any Deacon having a stock fingerboard. This is a mystery...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-09-30 11:56 AM (#238167 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question


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Breadwinner.....
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Steve
Posted 2006-09-30 12:37 PM (#238168 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question


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..was my first impression as well..
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2006-09-30 12:39 PM (#238169 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question


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Yep. Breadwinner. I've seen a few Breadwinners with factory gloss finishes. This is a pretty late model as indicated by the small pickguard and wider headstock. Towards the end of production there were a lot of inconsistencies from catalog spec, and not just on the Breads. I've seen UK11s with Preacher and Deacon necks and P.Deluxes with UK11 bow-tie inlays. Pretty much all the parts are interchangable from model to model, so at the end they were probably just getting rid of inventory.
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2006-09-30 1:54 PM (#238170 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question



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I like the looks of that guitar with the short pickguard. Welcome to the club!
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-09-30 3:41 PM (#238171 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question


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master templeton has spoken....jason
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cliff
Posted 2006-09-30 4:58 PM (#238172 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question


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Templeman.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-09-30 5:02 PM (#238173 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question


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damn..i get worse everyday....jason
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Weaser P
Posted 2006-09-30 5:06 PM (#238174 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question


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You're in the right place, jason.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-09-30 5:08 PM (#238175 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question


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i thought it was alzhimers but im only 23....but then again "high"school was a blast...jason
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GLW
Posted 2006-10-01 5:54 AM (#238176 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question


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Thanks, chaps! I suspected it was a Breadwinner, despite being told by the seller it was a Deacon. However, the serial number - E + 4 digits (in the 9000s in this case) - date it to late 74, early 75, so would that be a "pretty late model". I thought they made them up to 1979 or so?
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Beal
Posted 2006-10-01 11:47 AM (#238177 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question



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Just using up the parts...,.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-10-01 12:14 PM (#238178 - in reply to #238163)
Subject: Re: Newbie with a Deacon/Breadwinner question



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But the couch is from the Sears "Late Harvest" Collection. I believe it was the "Pomegranite".

We've seen some of the late model parts bin clear outs before. Makes me wonder where it would have gone had they ran a few more years!
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