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OT: Tru-oil finish ... is it OK? Lacquer neck ?

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an4340
Posted 2006-03-10 10:30 AM (#262757)
Subject: OT: Tru-oil finish ... is it OK? Lacquer neck ?


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tru-oil

For my project guitar, swamp ash body, maple neck, I was thinking about using this kind of finish, because, well it's relatively cheap and I won't gas myself. (I refinished a bike in my apartment and the fumes made me drool) Plus, I like the ease of application.

Is it any good?
Any warnings?

I might do the neck in Lacquer

Or would it be better to do the neck in Tru-oil?

My Adamas has some sort of oil in the neck, definitely not a lacquer.

Thanks
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MWoody
Posted 2006-03-10 10:54 AM (#262758 - in reply to #262757)
Subject: Re: OT: Tru-oil finish ... is it OK? Lacquer neck ?



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I have been using pure Tung Oil from Real Milk Paint and I find it has all the characteristics I enjoy in the Legend and Adamas necks I have played.

The number one reason to use an oil, for me, is to have the ability to remove dings and damage that can and will occur! If you are picky and require a glossed lacquer neck, that's fine.

Stay away from fumous finishes. The Tung oil is pleasant smelling and non toxic.

Oils well that ends well! :rolleyes:
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an4340
Posted 2006-03-10 11:06 AM (#262759 - in reply to #262757)
Subject: Re: OT: Tru-oil finish ... is it OK? Lacquer neck ?


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With Tung Oil it seems that there is no sanding between coats, is that right?

I do like the fact that tru-oil is designed for use on guns.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-03-10 12:05 PM (#262760 - in reply to #262757)
Subject: Re: OT: Tru-oil finish ... is it OK? Lacquer neck ?



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Tung Oil or China Oil in its pure state is a naturally polymerizing finish. It is used on gun stocks and salad bowls!

Soak it in and wipe off the excess. If damaged, sand and recoat.

When they add the thinners and fillers that's when it becomes hazardous and complicated.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-03-10 12:08 PM (#262761 - in reply to #262757)
Subject: Re: OT: Tru-oil finish ... is it OK? Lacquer neck ?



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One more tip:

With the Tung Oil still wet use some 400 grit and wet sand the wood. Small parts of the wood will work into the finish providing a very soft feel but it isn't visible. More for the body not the neck.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-03-10 12:12 PM (#262762 - in reply to #262757)
Subject: Re: OT: Tru-oil finish ... is it OK? Lacquer neck ?


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Is this what I can do to clean and feed the neck of my Adamas I 12 string?
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MWoody
Posted 2006-03-10 12:29 PM (#262763 - in reply to #262757)
Subject: Re: OT: Tru-oil finish ... is it OK? Lacquer neck ?



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I think it was Luthier 444 that said normal skin oils are all that are needed to do "upkeep" on the oiled knecks. So the answer is Elbow Grease!

Send it to me and I'll take care of the neck past the 4th fret for you!

Or just use your cappo!
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an4340
Posted 2006-03-10 12:33 PM (#262764 - in reply to #262757)
Subject: Re: OT: Tru-oil finish ... is it OK? Lacquer neck ?


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I did that wet sanding deal with a large oak mirror frame I made. But it was Danish Oil. Made for a very soft, but not tacky finish. Low lustre sheen. Though I think if I buffed it, it would get more glossy. Tung oil seems almost fool proof. And the Tru-oil doesn't seem bad either. As they say, what kind of ice cream to eat!
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an4340
Posted 2006-03-10 1:28 PM (#262765 - in reply to #262757)
Subject: Re: OT: Tru-oil finish ... is it OK? Lacquer neck ?


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As to the back of the neck I use butchers wax. For the fretboard mineral oil.
After playing alot, the back of the neck gets smoother, though I know people who buff them. Whoo, they're slick.
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FlySig
Posted 2006-03-10 4:25 PM (#262766 - in reply to #262757)
Subject: Re: OT: Tru-oil finish ... is it OK? Lacquer neck ?



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Just be sure that if you use Tung Oil that you use real tung oil, not "Tung Oil Finish" or something of similar name. There are a number of varnishes or other finishes that have a color similar to tung oil, but they are not tung oil.
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BruDeV
Posted 2006-03-10 7:08 PM (#262767 - in reply to #262757)
Subject: Re: OT: Tru-oil finish ... is it OK? Lacquer neck ?


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http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Finishing_supplies/Finishes_and_solvent...
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muzza
Posted 2006-09-30 11:57 AM (#262768 - in reply to #262757)
Subject: Re: OT: Tru-oil finish ... is it OK? Lacquer neck ?



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Originally posted by MWoody:
I think it was Luthier 444 that said normal skin oils are all that are needed to do "upkeep" on the oiled knecks. So the answer is Elbow Grease!
Is that true, Woody? I was wondering if I needed to do anything to the neck of my 1768. I've owned it for about 6 months now and I'm not sure what to do or what to use, if anything.

Just keep playin, ya reckon???
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2006-09-30 5:47 PM (#262769 - in reply to #262757)
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I'm about to embark on a finish with Tru-oil... I'll post pictures as I go.
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