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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-11-01 3:23 PM (#233971 - in reply to #233946)
Subject: Re: Ovation newbie seeking purchase advice


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Mac runs AutoCad in VPC
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-01 3:24 PM (#233972 - in reply to #233946)
Subject: Re: Ovation newbie seeking purchase advice


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my wife has a mac. personaly im too damn dense to use it,im quite content with my dell..jason
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MWoody
Posted 2006-11-01 3:34 PM (#233973 - in reply to #233946)
Subject: Re: Ovation newbie seeking purchase advice



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This seems like the time and place to share everything I think I know about Computers.

The Doctor
Explains Why Computers Sometimes Crash

If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port,
And the bus is interrupted as a very last resort,
And the address of the memory makes your floppy disk abort,
Then the socket packet pocket has an error to report!

If your cursor finds a menu item followed by a dash,
And the double-clicking icon puts your window in the trash,
And your data is corrupted 'cause the index doesn't hash,
Then your situation's hopeless, and your system's gonna crash!

If the label on the cable on the table at your house,
Says the network is connected to the button on your mouse,
But your packets want to tunnel on another protocol,
That's repeatedly rejected by the printer down the hall,

And your screen is all distorted by the side effects of gouse.
So your icons in the window are as wavy as a souse,
Then you may as well reboot and go out with a bang,
'Cause as sure as I'm a poet, the sucker's gonna hang!

When the copy of your floppy's getting sloppy on the disk,
And the microcode instructions cause unnecessary RISC,
Then you have to flash your memory and you'll want to RAM your ROM.

Quickly turn off the computer and be sure to tell your mom!
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Waskel
Posted 2006-11-01 3:36 PM (#233974 - in reply to #233946)
Subject: Re: Ovation newbie seeking purchase advice



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Originally posted by cliff:
". . These days, there's nothing you can do on one that you can't do on the other . ."


Run AutoCAD.
Good example. I meant if the software was available for a given platform.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2006-11-01 4:10 PM (#233975 - in reply to #233946)
Subject: Re: Ovation newbie seeking purchase advice


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I've only been in the IT biz... well since long before it was called the IT biz and they weren't MAC's they were Apple's and they weren't PC's they were Desktop Workstations. Of course for music at that time, the Commodore64 or even Amiga was so far out in front it wasn't funny.

There used to be a fairly wide gap from an artists or musicians point of view between MAC and PC. MAC being on top for the most part depending of course on what you needed to do. That gap closed quite awhile ago, but as with anything there are the "brand loyalists."

In the music industry the "battle" still rages. For my purposes, I run a PC in the studio mainly because if there is some widget I want to run, some effect I want to try, etc... There is a good chance, if there is a MAC version, there is also a PC version, but not the other way around.

A few years back I was working on a huge CBT program. 100's of slides that had voice over. Recording, trimming, saving, naming etc.. just wasn't cutting it time wise. So I called up a programmer colleague and within two days had a program that I basically just had to press record and either save or redo. It took care of the naming and saving so each clip was just two clicks. Can't really do on-the-fly development for a MAC like that.

On the other hand, I was working on a PC recently where the person basically just checks email, surfs the web, plays iTunes and does some office tasks. I found an empty 30GB partition she didn't even know she had. Several pieces of software that were loading for devices she didn't have. If there ever was a person that needed a MAC it was her.

Bottom line when making the determination, and looking at a MAC, I try to figure out if the person is going to share their work with any other computer, and if they are only going to ever share stuff with other MAC users. If this is the case, or they rarely share anything with anyone in its raw form, than a MAC is the way to go, especially if they are artists.

If they plan on sharing the raw data they use (like raw .wav files for music) with non-MAC folks, I recommend a PC.

Like they say... get the right tool for the right job. Most web developers I know use both side by side. They do the graphics manipulation on the MAC and the coding on a PC. The value added is that the pages are being tested by default on both.
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MrDano
Posted 2006-11-01 4:30 PM (#233976 - in reply to #233946)
Subject: Re: Ovation newbie seeking purchase advice


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What a great topic eh - it can go on and on and on...and so here is my 2 cents worth.

MAC or PC is no longer the question imho. If you want stability - go Linux - you can build out a screaming PC for home recording on an old P4 with nothing but freeware. Never connect it to the internet so you never worry about virus' and if you share anything - exchange files with your home PC and voila.

Considering that Linux will run very well with limited processing speed/memory - you can probably use someone's throw away machine and build out a faster machine then the newest Pentium cores will provide - for next to nothing.

The question for me is AMD or Intel - 32bit or 64bit and what the upside will be. I look at it this way, over 80% of the computing world is on windows so that's where I want to be cause when I need help - I can't always find a MAC guy. So, if Window's it is - who's gonna give me the most for my money. At this point I think AMD's 64bit is the forerunner in stability, speed and multiprocessing, and for me - since I've resigned myself to Windows - it's all about the speed!!
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2006-11-01 4:47 PM (#233977 - in reply to #233946)
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Good Points MrDano. I didn't mention Linux and should have. I use the same checklist as for MAC vs PC as it seems you do also. If someone has a little computer knowledge, and can pick things up from reading web articles, you can setup a lean'n mean rock'n home studio with Linux. If all you're going is recording, editing, doing your demo, what a great money-saver and a stable platform.

Many devices like firewalls, routers, webcamsm cell phones, are written on modified Linux op systems. Tons of software available. One does need to be a little computer savvy, but not a real geekazoid to create a decent Linux system.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-11-01 7:18 PM (#233978 - in reply to #233946)
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I'd be running a Linux box if there was more audio and video software available, and there weren't so many hardware incompatibilities. It's fast, safe and stable. Someday.
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