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Location: Farmington, MO. 63640 | Hello to everyone on this forum. I'm a new member and I'm so glad to have found this site. I've been reading the past postings while learning as I go from your questions and answers. I decided today to come out of lurking and to introduce myself. I'm JAYROC ( Jim Goodson), male, 50 years old from Missouri one hour south of St Louis. Been married 30 years, have two grown boys, 1 granddaughter and 1 grandson. I learned to play the guitar at the age of 13 or so from my dad, Jim Goodson who passed away last year. Dad could play anything with strings but his main instrument was the pedal steel guitar. He couldn't read music but had a wonderful ear for it. He showed me the chords on his Gibson J-45 and each weekend when he came home from his St Louis job we would play and practice together but always country music. As long as I can remember Dad was always in a band and played out every Friday and Saturday in one bar or another. I went along most every weekend and when I got better, was allowed to play the J-45 to the songs that I had learned and had practiced with him. My folks divorced when I was 14. Now I don't know if playing in bars for years without your spouse could cause a divorce, but I suppose it could happen (HA). Dad was with me the day I bought my first Ovation in Wichita, Kansas where I was living, the year was 1981. I had been seeing this roundback guitar on television being played by everyone from rock to country music. Finally saw the name on the headstock, Ovation, and had to check it out. Went to a music store and picked up a Custom Balladeer and played acoustically and fell in love. I was ready to buy right then when the salesperson asked if I wanted to plug her up. After being electrified I about broke my arm getting to my wallet for the $440.00 it cost new in 81. I still have her and both my boys have learned to play on it. I have a small guitar collection consisting of 6 Ovations, 5 Ibanez, 2 Fender and 1 1936 Kalamazoo archtop. My very favorite is the 1990 Adamas 1581-7 which I haven't seen anything about on this forum or anywhere else for that matter. Does anyone know anything about it? Its a white with blue in the middle cutaway and only has 1 group of small soundholes. Anyway its good to find this site and I've gone on long enough. JAYROC |
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Location: Boston MA | Hello there I to am new to the OFC and wanted to say hello dont know a thing about your guitar sorry IM shore you will get some info. IM going to get my first Ovation wanted one for a long time.Have a USA Fender Strat Yamaha FG412S Had to have an Ovation. I can remember my sisters old boy friend had one and would let me try it I loved it had to be around 12 or 13. Would all ways see them, play them, now at 38 it is time to get one!! Brian |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Jayroc
Sounds like you've got one of the first Adamas 2 cutaways. Tell us the s/n and that will get you the year.
Welcome to the club. |
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Location: Farmington, MO. 63640 | The S/N is 5104 which dates to 1990 I think. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Jayroc
Country players are always welcome to me, I'm probably more like your dad in that I got my kids to play with me. They out talented me pretty quickly and we still play together even though I'm getting kinda creaky and old. Since you've been visiting the board, I guess you can see that most of us love our instruments maybe more than we should, but that's what's great about this board. I've never seen a nicer and more helpful bunch of people. Welcome, and sound off often for the country crowd.
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Location: Farmington, MO. 63640 | Thanks for the welcome Bailey. I probably gave the wrong impression that I'm a country fan. I like country music OK but really like older rock, Pink Floyd, Clapton, ZZ Top, Stones, Aerosmith, etc. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Jayroc
That fits right in with my sons preferences when playing with their friends in their own bands. They play bluegrass and country with me, and are rockers with their own bands. It has never stopped us from having a good time, now their kids are playing something different than them. It's all made up of rythym, words and melody, and riffs, licks, or whatever the genre calls them. Each generation has their music, and as the years pass, the best music survives and becomes Golden Oldies. And certain things are revived, such as the folk music of O Brother where Art Thou. I went through a folk/bluegrass revival in the 70's that flashed by and sucked in the acid rockers, such as Jerry Garcia, folk rockers like the Eagles, CSNY etc. and spit out a whole new music. But it all starts by someone picking up a guitar as a kid and moving beyond what first impressed him/her. I'm still stuck in my country/bluegrass roots. See, I wasn't too far off the mark when I said I was probably more like your dad. (I listen to many of the bands you mention and enjoy them, but I have to play what I know best).
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welcome enjoy your stay here there are many good folks with great stories and info....and most even tolerate me |
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Location: NJ | Al;
We don't tolerate you,.........We accept you.
Bailey;
If you wouldn't mind, could you possibly send me your email address? (My address is in my profile.)
Jayroc;
WELCOME to the Club!! |
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Location: NJ | one of us......one of us......(think the movie freaks) |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Cliff
I wasn't ignoring you, I just missed your post. I'll put my e-mail on a future posting by changing my profile.
Alpep
If your talking O Brother, your not too far off the mark. It doesn't play bluegrass and it is totally condescending and insulting to the people of the rural south. It ranks with the coverage of the feud of the Hatfields and McCoys in the 30's, portraying hard working and dignified mountain people as freaks. The fact it is so popular escapes me and I haven't played one of the songs from it. The musicians who play in it are some of the best, but they should have demanded more respect.
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| hey none of u guys have replied to my messages so i thought id post on to another to get some info
:( .....i have a celebrity by ovation GTX look alike it has 2 humbuckers(XK120)... just wondering wat the hell its kalled so i can get some pics and value on it
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Location: Pennsylvania | Though I am a bluegrass and folk fan (among being a fan of many other styles), the music from "O Brother" doesn't entice me in the least. To me, it's just not bluegrass...at least not my type of it. I guess I just cant listen to it without thinking of a packaged, produced hollywood movie starring george clooney. |
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Location: Scotland | Dark Ninja, most of the knowledge of this board's members is to do with USA-built Ovations. If you haven't had a reply it's because nobody has any answers, you are not being ignored. The guitar you refer to is a generic, probably Korean-built "super-Strat" badged as a Celebrity. That's about as far as any Ovation connection goes with this particular guitar. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Tom
You got it, it was the biggest selling CD and it didn't help real bluegrass a bit. It's kinda scary after playing bluegrass for almost 40 years, that I might have to play those songs to get work, as if I'd play any thing I don't like to get work.
Dark Ninja
I have a solid body Ovation Viper and have looked at many pictures on this web site of Preachers and Breadwinners, UKs, Bluebirds, etc.. But yours is the first mention on the board of a solid body celebrity and I was waiting for an answer to see what it is. Don't give up, just wait, out of the 500, somebody may have some insight, if not it may not be an Ovation. If it plays good , does it matter? |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | I'd just like to add that the "O brother..." soundtrack helped to open my ears to bluegrass music- I really enjoyed the soundtrack. Since seeing the movie, I've taken the opportunity to see a few bluegrass acts (locally) which I've enjoyed immensely. I can't say I would've otherwise taken the time to learn more about it, had I not had the initial exposure to it. As far as how that movies portray the south, hardworking mountain folks or whatever, I can't speak to that...
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Location: Pennsylvania | Bailey, It's funny you mentioned that you "might have to play those songs just to get work..."
I just spent two days at Pennsylvania's Music in the Mountains bluegrass/acoustic festival and three of the bands there played "man of constant sorrow."
I personally know the one band who played it, and their guitar player once said to me "Yeah, I watched that movie because there was supposed to be bluegrass in it--it had nothing to do with it."
I dont know... I am glad that everyone is more open to bluegrass now, but I dont think it's helped the bluegrass community and players. It's caused stereotypes and also has caused some bluegrass bands to reformulate their true style in order to become more popular.
(Rich--didn't mean to offend you. It's just my opinion... I'm glad you've gone out and seen some bluegrass shows. You'll find that some of the best bluegrass you'll hear is from a live band, and many times local one at that.)
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Location: NJ | tom you went to the folk fest? how was richard thompson??? |
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Location: Pennsylvania | It was the Music in the Mountains festival in PA. Unfortunately it was not the one that richard thompson was at. Still a good time was had by all. Saw the hickory project and the mckrells among other good acts. |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Hey Tom,
No offense taken... I'm not a bluegrass afficionado by any stretch of the imagination ;)
I can tell you that no purist will ever take any kind of fad seriously, like the current one enjoyed by bluegrass or 'new grass' as the case may be- except when it has such a drastic effect on the bottom line. Hence, 3 different acts performing Man Of Constant Sorrow at the show you recently attended. I wonder what Norman Blake or Union Station would say about the current trend, as they head to the bank... :eek: |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Rich
I'm super happy that you enjoyed the music and went a little farther to see more of it. My comments should always be taken with a grain of salt, as I'm hopelessly addicted to traditional bluegrass, the songs in O Brother are authentic folk songs, and Man of Constant Sorrow is a Stanley Brothers song that is authentic bluegrass, but not their best, seeing George Clooney do it is hard to take. If you can find an old Country Gentlemen album or even Dolly Parton's new grammy winning albums you will see some of the range of Bluegrass that wasn't in the movie.
snowlock
There is a historic trend in bluegrass to evolve into jazz. In the 80's, there were 3 fiddle players that were 12 or 13 years old and were winning national old time fiddle contests, Alison Krause, Stuart Duncan (from San Diego and a big local star), and Alison Brown, all are now national personna. Stuart Duncan is the fiddle equivalent of Jerry Douglas, playing on every major bluegrass CD, and has stuck to his bluegrass roots, Alison Krause has become a vocalist, and rejected her bluegrass roots for a conglomerate music that has served her well, she's producing Nickel Creek, young, talented and from San Diego, but not traditional bluegrass. Alison Brown, who like Stuart Duncan, beat our butts in all the San Diego folk and fiddle contests, and there were many, I remember playing for 10,000 people at the Lion's Club contest at Julian up in the mountains (that just burned to the ground). Alison Brown has a band out there that I see mentioned sometimes. We bluegrass players forgive them all because of their great talents and if they were loyal to the cause they would be unknown like the rest of us plunkers.
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I did not hear of that one I thought you were talking about then Philly folk fest in schwenksville. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Just an aside, a lot of musicians have been bluegrass fans secretly, some, like Jerry Garcia, not so secretly. It is a type of music that can't be faked by the musician, either you can do it or you can't. It is similar to jazz, in that, each musician must play over the theme and hopefully add something when the spirit is upon them. |
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