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Moody's 1117 Question: "A" vs "VT" bracing

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dobro
Posted 2008-09-30 7:18 AM (#18425)
Subject: Moody's 1117 Question: "A" vs "VT" bracing



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Location: Chicago		Moody wrote:
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If your [1117 Legend] is a VT braced guitar then I might have to re-think my entire belief system regarding VT braced guitars. I'd love to try my 3 chords on it...
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Pretty sure my 1117 has V11 bracing, Moody. I just posted a raw sound clip "guitar2" of the 1117 Legend ON MY OFC PAGE : it sounds pretty good, not too plasticky..... Don't forget that I've been banging on it for 35 years!!!
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dobro
Posted 2008-09-30 11:01 AM (#18426 - in reply to #18425)
Subject: Re: Moody's 1117 Question: "A" vs "VT" bracing



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Location: Chicago		It looks as if the discussion has moved TO MY OFC PAGE ... Pretty useful for immediate music posting etc.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-09-30 11:06 AM (#18427 - in reply to #18425)
Subject: Re: Moody's 1117 Question: "A" vs "VT" bracing
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Location: Phoenix AZ		Important to note that to some (maybe large) extent the X-A-VT debate goes out the window depending on WHO is playing the guitar. We've all heard masters of their trade make absolute POS guitars sound great.

In my feeble hands the differences become much more glaring. I've owned numerous VT-whatever braced ovations and they all sounded vanilla. But the X and A models that I've owned sounded noticably better to my ears. But that's just me.

Of course I just KNOW that I could sound like Tony Rice if I onmly had the money to buy a pre-war D28.

Dave
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dobro
Posted 2008-09-30 11:13 AM (#18428 - in reply to #18425)
Subject: Re: Moody's 1117 Question: "A" vs "VT" bracing



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Location: Chicago		The absolute truth! I must say in this context, that me compared to me, I am amazed at the bottom end on the Adamas. Truly no match for that dimension....
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-06 3:54 PM (#18429 - in reply to #18425)
Subject: Re: Moody's 1117 Question: "A" vs "VT" bracing



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Location: Jet City		OK, I'm going to re-open discussion on this one. After having the one main cross brace reglued, my 1117 sounds better than ever.

I have confirmed with mirrors and a flexible light that this bracing is indeed some sort of VT, but not like any I've seen on others. There's no marks that a brace used to be up top, so I'm prety sure this is how it came from the factory.




As for sound, I like the overall tone of the "A" braced Legend better, but this one is WAY LOUDER, and not by just a little bit. It's noticeably louder than any other guitar I own except the 12 string, and that's even a close call. The other thing it exceeds at over all the rest is harmonics. The harmonics ring out like no other.

With all the VT naysayers, I can only guess that it's the odd brace and the fact that the headstock has a much greater angle that would make this one a bit better than a typical VT?
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GaryB
Posted 2008-10-06 4:24 PM (#18430 - in reply to #18425)
Subject: Re: Moody's 1117 Question: "A" vs "VT" bracing


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Location: Location Location Location		Well, I have my hand held mirror, no case or monogram (darn it), and next string change I'm going inside to see what bracing m '69 1127-4 has. Of course, I realize this has nothing to do with the 1117..
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dobro
Posted 2008-10-06 6:06 PM (#18431 - in reply to #18425)
Subject: Re: Moody's 1117 Question: "A" vs "VT" bracing



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Location: Chicago		And I return to say that my '74 1117 Legend has a VT 11 bracing pattern for sure:
The sound of this axe is LARGE: Listen to the track "guitar 2" on my personal OFC page. It is a "raw" recording done unplugged with an AKG mic.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-10-06 7:07 PM (#18432 - in reply to #18425)
Subject: Re: Moody's 1117 Question: "A" vs "VT" bracing


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Location: SoCal		I don't know what to say about your guitar, Greg, except that I would love to A/B it next to the 30th CL that's been here on a sleep over........
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-10-06 7:24 PM (#18433 - in reply to #18425)
Subject: Re: Moody's 1117 Question: "A" vs "VT" bracing


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Location: Boise, Idaho		I'm closer. (Just barely.) Maybe I could figure a way to get my 30th over to dobro so he could do a comparison.
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