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alpep
Posted 2002-06-12 12:46 PM (#221288 - in reply to #221263)
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bukwheat
Posted 2002-06-12 2:20 PM (#221289 - in reply to #221263)
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Norseman1, I am not familiar with the Markely Pro Mag. I have a Markely but not sure if it was a Pro Mag. I put it on my 1117 and was not impressed, thus the Fishman Rare Earth acquisition. Be sure and check out the Fishman, they are awesome and it added a new whole dimension to the 1117. What color is your 1117? Mine is what they called the Tobacco Sunburst. I bought it new and have enjoyed it from day one.

bukwheat
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Norseman1
Posted 2002-06-12 2:43 PM (#221290 - in reply to #221263)
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Hey Bukwheat! My Legend is a natural spruce top. I love it! I've seen Balladeers with the Sunburst like you have, and they are very nice.

Do you have a link to theis Fishman site? does it involve drilling holes and the such?

Norse(thanks for the info)man1

p.s. Hey Al, today I'm a potatoe (with an "e" like Dan Quayle says)
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Norseman1
Posted 2002-06-12 2:55 PM (#221291 - in reply to #221263)
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Hey Bukwheat,

I just went to the Fishman website. They have a soundhole pick-up as such;

Understated good looks and sparkling full range sound reveal the Neo-D as a direct descendent of Fishman's acclaimed Rare Earth soundhole pickup. In fact, the single coil Neo-D shares the same neodymium magnets and coil technology as the best-selling Rare Earth pickup, except it's passive.

Is this the style of pick-up you have refered to (soundhole) or the permanently mounted style mentioned in a previous post by Paul? I like the soundhole idea!

Norse(any idea of price range, nothing noted at the Fishman website)man1
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bukwheat
Posted 2002-06-12 3:00 PM (#221292 - in reply to #221263)
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Norseman1
There is a link to Fishman on the first page of this post, about midpage,http://www.fishman.com.

The only hole to be drilled is cord input, either in the endpin or the back. Real clean application.

The pickup is very even in its tonal pickup qualities.

I paid $160(alabama dollars)for mine at Mars Music. Worth every penny!

bukwheat
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2002-06-12 7:31 PM (#221293 - in reply to #221263)
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The Fishman Rare Earth is a licensed version of Scottish luthier Mike Vanden's Mimesis pickup. They come in various formats, single coil & humbucker, & with a mike. A new version includes a miniature AKG condenser on a mini gooseneck OUTSIDE the guitar, which is a much better idea than an internal mike. These pickups aren't particularly cheap, but in my experience are the best sounding magnetics, with the exception of the Sunrise. I would recommend you go with the original active Rare Earth rather than the new passive version. They involve no modification other than instalation of of an output or endpin jack. I have a Mimesis active single coil on my '72 Legend which I use for slide.

[ June 12, 2002: Message edited by: Paul Templeman ]
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Beal
Posted 2002-06-12 8:31 PM (#221294 - in reply to #221263)
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alpep
Posted 2002-06-12 9:08 PM (#221295 - in reply to #221263)
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cambellnut
Posted 2002-11-11 8:32 AM (#221296 - in reply to #221263)
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I have an american made Ultra with a brown bowl.
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Pilgrim
Posted 2002-11-11 4:50 PM (#221297 - in reply to #221263)
Subject: Re: Bowl Color vs Model / Year


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Hey Norse(thoughtyoumighthavegoneintohibernationtobereadyforthoseMinn.winters)man1,

If you recall I bought a left 1117-4 awhile back. Deep black bowl. Needs new frets, no pickup, cracks in top. Based on previously posted comments about how good the factory service is I called them up. Spoke to a gentleman named John Brudny. He was very nice and sounded like he knew his business. He stated that they could perform the following work for me at the following prices:

1. New frets/sand fingerboard/set up neck - $200
2. OP-24+C preamp w/TruBalance pick up - $250
3. Brace top/repair cracks and refinish top - $300

He mentioned something about the OP-24+C as going well in lefty models. I also like having the battery accessible from the outside.

Until he actually sees the guitar he can't tell if he can refinish the top (with clear spray) without effecting the aged pumpkin color of the top. He will be calling me with his best recommendation. The $300 was a guestimate on his part based on other tops he has repaired.

He said it would take 4 - 6 weeks to complete the work.

So am I out of my mind to spend twice what the instrument is worth to bring it up to snuff? Probably. But when you are a lefty it is hard to find fine guitars.

If anyone has a better idea I'm listening.

Anyway, I thought I would mention that you also have the option of having the factory install an up to date preamp/pickup in your 1117.

$400 for the guitar
$750 for the repairs and electronics
$ 50 for shipping

$1,200 and it will be good to go for another 25 years. I can't think of a lefty acoustic in that price range that I would rather have.

If nothing else I will have them redo the neck.

I will let you know how it all turns out.
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