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Green2
Posted 2002-11-08 9:36 AM (#216382)
Subject: Pick guard or not to pick guard??


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What do you guys think? New Ovation Pinnacle, sun-burst design. Should I protect it now or does it lessen the "appeal"? (I know this is minor thing but I am an extreme novice at this point and looking for guidance from my superiors!)
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cliff
Posted 2002-11-08 9:57 AM (#216383 - in reply to #216382)
Subject: Re: Pick guard or not to pick guard??


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This topic has come up before in one form or another. Personally, I don't care for the idea of gluing on a pick guard to a new guitar that wasn't designed w/one.

There's this stuff available for classical players
(Paul Templeman know the name of it) that's clear plastic sheeting that you can stick on the face to protect the finish from marring and can can be peeled off when it gets "old". This might help in the interim while you work out you individual picking/strumming style.
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seesquare
Posted 2002-11-08 10:01 AM (#216384 - in reply to #216382)
Subject: Re: Pick guard or not to pick guard??


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Just make sure it can be removed with no residual damage. As a "novice", are you referring to limited & imprecise strumming expertise? The finish on Ovations is robust, to say the least, so an occasional scrape could be buffed out relatively easily. Your call, Green-meister.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2002-11-08 11:52 AM (#216385 - in reply to #216382)
Subject: Re: Pick guard or not to pick guard??


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Specialist Flamenco or Classical guitar dealers will be able to supply a sheet of self-adhesive clear plastic, used for "tap-plates" (Golpe or Golpeador is the correct term) I think this is what Cliff was referring to. In the UK it's available from Ivor Mairants

http://www.ivormairants.co.uk/

I've had this stuff on a couple of my non-Ovations for years. It works fine.
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Green2
Posted 2002-11-08 2:27 PM (#216386 - in reply to #216382)
Subject: Re: Pick guard or not to pick guard??


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Thanks. I will look into the temporary, removable protection!!

And, yes, still working on my strumming style!! I grew up with a country strum but am trying to develop a more syncopated sound but haveing some difficulties.
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alpep
Posted 2002-11-08 5:35 PM (#216387 - in reply to #216382)
Subject: Re: Pick guard or not to pick guard??


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change your picking technique so you don't scratch the top
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TK17
Posted 2002-11-09 12:57 AM (#216388 - in reply to #216382)
Subject: Re: Pick guard or not to pick guard??


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I agree with Al.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2002-11-09 4:53 AM (#216389 - in reply to #216382)
Subject: Re: Pick guard or not to pick guard??


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Sorry, but that's like asking a rower to change his technique so the oars don't get wet. If you play with picks then you should expect to see some pickwear over time. Guitars are meant to be played and you shouldn't compromise the way you play for the sake of keeping a working tool in showroom condition.
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alpep
Posted 2002-11-09 5:17 AM (#216390 - in reply to #216382)
Subject: Re: Pick guard or not to pick guard??


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Paul sorry but I disagree. If you have good technique you do not scratch the top.
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Standingovation
Posted 2002-11-09 7:54 AM (#216391 - in reply to #216382)
Subject: Re: Pick guard or not to pick guard??



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I guess we could conclude that Willie Nelson needs to work on his technique. Personally, I would never put a pickguard on an Ovation acoustic. If you scratch the top, so what. Once you wear all the way through the wood, at least you might have better access to change the damn battery. Dave
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alpep
Posted 2002-11-09 8:42 AM (#216392 - in reply to #216382)
Subject: Re: Pick guard or not to pick guard??


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Originally posted by Standingovation:
[QB]I guess we could conclude that Willie Nelson needs to work on his technique.

Absolutely
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2002-11-09 12:32 PM (#216393 - in reply to #216382)
Subject: Re: Pick guard or not to pick guard??


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Al, I have very good technique, all of my guitars show very minor marks, and I play fingerstyle without picks. I would contend thats it's impossible to play a guitar and not show signs of it being played, no matter how minor. Poor picking technique can cause "the Willie Nelson effect" eventually, but it's pointless being paranoid about a few little scratches, most of which could be removed with a cutting polish if you could be bothered.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2002-11-09 4:39 PM (#216394 - in reply to #216382)
Subject: Re: Pick guard or not to pick guard??


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This is interesting.. I don't know how to get the pick to touch the top. I have probably the worst "form" of anyone I know. I never understood how pickmarks get onto the pickguard. Now I'm not talking about occationally actually tapping the pick.. that's gonna happen, but I really don't see how to get "strumming" marks on a guitar. If you are strumming that hard, especially on an electric GET A BIGGER AMP!!!
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alpep
Posted 2002-11-09 10:02 PM (#216395 - in reply to #216382)
Subject: Re: Pick guard or not to pick guard??


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I am not saying that none of my guitars don't have marks they do but none of them are really bad at all. It all depends on technique if you pick correctly and your right hand is not lazy you don;t get few pick marks.
that is all I am saying
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