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seesquare
Posted 2003-06-24 12:06 PM (#207769 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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Anybody with some "juice" with the Mothership want to investigate whether they would be willing to do some special orders?
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seesquare
Posted 2003-06-26 6:34 PM (#207770 - in reply to #207744)
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Say, Guys, who would I correspond with to get the specs and construction details on the dobro? I have a general idea how to do a "standard box" design. I'm wondering what special considerations there might be for the roundback design. I think the sound must be FABULOUS!!
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-06-26 8:21 PM (#207771 - in reply to #207744)
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Stewmac have resonator guitar schematics and all neccesary parts, including cones, soundwells, coverplates etc, & there are others available on the web, adapt as neccesary.
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BruDeV
Posted 2003-06-27 12:36 AM (#207772 - in reply to #207744)
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They've got 2 different reso kits. If I remember right the kits include everything except tuners and finish/glue etc.
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Bailey
Posted 2003-06-27 12:57 AM (#207773 - in reply to #207744)
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The hard question is which Ovation to cut up and install the resonator, I vote for the MOB?
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-06-27 2:44 AM (#207774 - in reply to #207744)
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Although you can't do it to my MOB, I'm thinking using an MOB is kindof appropriate for an instrument that you use a slide on. SUrf guitar and Hawaii music seem to work together.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-06-27 5:41 AM (#207775 - in reply to #207744)
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Miles & I spoke with Kim about this over dinner at Stonge's. Apparantly the neck pitch on the imports is too shallow to work with a resonator.
Best bet for a conversion would be a USA 12-fret Nylon string. If I remember correctly the reso at the factory had a super-shallow bowl with a classic neck. If anyone has a Classic to sell, preferably cutaway, I'm your man
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seesquare
Posted 2003-06-27 9:14 AM (#207776 - in reply to #207744)
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Bailey, my vote would be one of those old Matrix models with a worn-out fretboard. If I had only had this grandiose notion BEFORE I sold that 1624.......
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seesquare
Posted 2003-06-27 7:24 PM (#207777 - in reply to #207744)
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OK, new idea- How 'bout using my CS-255 for a conversion? It occurred to me I need a top without a soundhole (in an inopportune position), for the installation of the resonator well and cone. The guitar already has a peghead repair, so any resale value already went bye-bye. It has a fairly low action so raising the whole works with the biscuit bridge probably won't hurt too much. Heck, I don't know anything but first position chords anyway!!
I'm kinda thinkin' the installation, and routing, of the piezo pickup may be a bit tricky.....
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-06-27 7:43 PM (#207778 - in reply to #207744)
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Ok. it's not as easy as it may seem. You'll need an entire new top, plywood will suffice, then you need the resonator parts. There are 2 distinct types of resonator, National & Dobro (or biscuit & spider)
The parts include the cone, coverplate, biscuit or spider bridge, saddle, tailpiece & soundwell. Both types sound very different, but put simply the National-type biscuit cone has a very strong midrange and is good for blues. The Dobro/Spider assembly has less midrange, sounds sweeter & is preferred for country & bluegrass. The best cones are made by Quarterman. I'm not sure that a 14-fret neck guitar will work due to the position of the bridge/cone. A 12-fret neck will, no doubt. I'm going to do this as soon as I can find a suitable beater.
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alpep
Posted 2003-06-27 9:43 PM (#207779 - in reply to #207744)
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paul
we need to talk
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Bailey
Posted 2003-06-28 1:22 AM (#207780 - in reply to #207744)
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OMIGOD

My ears just imagined a resonator Adamas with an early shiny deep bowl, Dobro type, of course. It is like when you have that song in your head that won't go away, someone please hit a chord and get my ears on something more realistic.
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seesquare
Posted 2003-06-28 6:40 PM (#207781 - in reply to #207744)
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Uh-huh, and OK. I just printed off the 31 pages from Stew-Mac's website on resonator construction. "Informed consent" may be a scary proposition......
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Bailey
Posted 2003-06-29 1:43 AM (#207782 - in reply to #207744)
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WARNING!!

I'm going to describe slowly cutting in to that Adamas top to install the resonator. All you Adamas fans log off, or you are going to be very nauseated. You drill a hole where the jig saw will start (DRILL a hole in an Adamas top with NO anesthetic), then you proceed to CUT a round hole the SIZE OF A RESONATOR in that pristine composite top, then, if that wasn't enough and the screams haven't gotten to you, you cut TWO, TWO, MORE HOLES IN THE UPPER BOUT for the small (but painful) sound holes. Then you install the resonator and connect all the nerve endings to this bastardly robotic frankensteinien Adamas, a screaming, survivor and you have your resophonic guitar, mortally wounded, lurching, crawling, screaming as it submits to your daily tortures. I REALLY WANT ONE!!

Bailey
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seesquare
Posted 2003-06-29 12:50 PM (#207783 - in reply to #207744)
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Bailey, that was truly lugubrious and twisted; you're a man after my own heart! The diagnostic criterion for genuine "whackcase" status is whether you wear hearing protection during the dismembering and violation procedure. Guten Tag, Herr Doktor Mengele!!
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Bailey
Posted 2003-06-30 1:53 AM (#207784 - in reply to #207744)
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Heh, Heh, Heh

This weill hurt me more than you, so there weill be no anesthetic, start the cutting Adolf, the screams will make us sleep well tonight, let those Adamas lovers sleep in their vomit as we produce the RESOPHONIC ADAMAS. We can crawl on the carcass with Miss Braun, as we commit the ultimate sexual crime, Ovationodomy, I can hear the squiemish shivering in their small hells, because THEY didn't think of it first.

Bailey Mengele (I seem to have been outed, Ms. Braun, can I hide in your bunker til this blows over? Please try to restrain that Adolf from blowing us all away, the Russians will rescue us and make us the heroes that we are.)
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seesquare
Posted 2003-06-30 9:42 AM (#207785 - in reply to #207744)
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar?


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Uh-huh. Missed your medication again, eh? It's that little black one that tastes like bitter almonds. Happy Trails To You...........
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Bailey
Posted 2003-07-01 1:55 AM (#207786 - in reply to #207744)
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Well, as they say, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelot, and a few Ovations to make a resophonic, the squemish need not watch.
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