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grrroovedude
Posted 2003-07-28 5:49 AM (#206071)
Subject: Digital technique


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Posts: 299

Location: Netherlands
Hi, i was just going through some old threads (still considering to buy a CVT or SMT) and i stumbled upon one where the conservative opinion of solidwoodfanatics was brought up.

Someone said Ovation players are openminded. So, I was wondering: I play my guitar thru a digital processor, which simulates an acoustic guitar amplifier and then run it into my tube amp.

Nowadays there are many options like this, think of the Line6 equipment, POD's, Boss's GT-6, GS-10, Rolands VF-10 The digital hughes and Kettners, the Fender digital amp etc. etc.

How do you feel about those and are there people using this equipment?

Martin
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-07-28 5:58 AM (#206072 - in reply to #206071)
Subject: Re: Digital technique


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February 2002
Posts: 5750

Location: Scotland
I have no problem with digital equipment, I own lots of it, my recording equipment is digital, though I use analogue mic preamps & compressors because they sound better to me. When I play electric guitar on stage I will not use anything but a tube amp, but I'm happy to use Amp modellers in the studio. For recording acoustic guitars I always high-quality mics & mic pre-amps, never pickups.

AS far as amplifying acoustic guitars goes, it depends on the sound you're looking for. Personally I want to sound as natural, unprocessed & "acoustic" as possible at volume. Which means I prefer to play through high quality full-range sound systems rather than equipment designed primarily for electric guitars. I have an acoustic amp but only use it as a personal monitor when the house monitors (or engineer!) aren't up to the job. In my opinion The guitar multi-fx units and amps you describe are not suitable. Generally units designed for electric guitars do not work well with acoustics. That's not to say they wont produce usable tones, but to me they sound over-processed & synthetic. It depends on what you want to hear.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-07-28 7:07 AM (#206073 - in reply to #206071)
Subject: Re: Digital technique


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December 2001
Posts: 7236

Location: The Great Pacific Northwest
Paul nailed it on this one. It truly depends on your goal for sound. For live sound, it's best to use the PA if it's decent of course, and only monitor through an amp. Even recording, I use my best and warmest mic's and pre-amps to capture the natural sound of the Guitar.
However, there is a time those "simulators" and processors are very handy and that is if you are recording for use in a mix of several instruments. Professionally I still record the full range of the instrument and then EQ and compress at mixdown, however for the home user and for demoes and such, this technique may be more work than its reward. The units such as V-Amp or POD, etc.. tend to process the instruments so they will fit into a mix.
Just a note on acoustic amps... Unless you need a "monitor" I would spend the same money on a decent small PA system, and use that. Behringer, Mackie, Yamaha, Yorkville, Peavey, all have small PA packages for well under $1000, and in the long run, it's money better spent if you are going to play live. The acoustic, especially an Ovation is going to sound fantastic, you can add your vocals to it, and in bigger situations, you can use it as the monitor. Just more bang for the buck in my opinion.
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