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Location: Tampa, Florida | Why doesn't Ovation make any USA made travel or parlor guitars? I would love a 3/4 elite (like a CS212) with solid top and a OP30. Nice burst finish would be nice too. My dream guitar? 12 fret parlor non cutaway slothead Adamas. Any chance? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Just a guess but most people want a small price for a small guitar and USA doesn't fit in that sentence. I found it to be true. I have no problem dropping 5K+ for a great Collings but a baby Collings (3/4) at $1500 I had a problem with and didn't buy. It doesn't make sence, the 3/4 guitar has the same amount of work and quality materials but it is a psycological hurdle to get over. There's my 2 cents. |
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Location: SoCal | didn't they have problems selling the '97 Collector's (the parlor)??
if so, wasn't because of quality - a great guitar. |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | cwk2 is absolutely right....the expectation is that a small guitar must be cheaper, and U.S.-made doesn't fit in that price/cost scenario.
Interesting, though, that Larrivee is bucking that with their parlors. They discontinued the cheaper matte-finish Canadian-made parlors that sold for $500-$600 street, moved them to California production, upgraded them to higher trim with gloss finish and raised the price to $900-$1000. If you option a 'burst finish, it puts it around $2000.
My suspicion is, though, that the Larrivee parlors went upmarket to camouflage the inevitable price hike from moving production to California from B.C.
Roger
1976 Applause AA14-4 6-String
1978 Ovation 1617-4 Legend 6-string
1981 Ovation 1118-1 Glen Campbell 12-string
2001 Adamas 1598-MERB Melissa Etheridge 12-String
2003 Ovation 1777-NAT Legend 6-string
2004 Ovation GCS771-C Balladeer 6-string |
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Location: Tampa, Florida | Just a CS212 with a solid top and OP30 would be fine I guess, to keep it around the $400 street price range. |
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | Why not take advantage of the situation. Buy a 97 Collectors in the used market. They are cheap for what you getting and are wonderful guitars. You then have a collectable and a great value.
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| I noticed a 3/4 size classical on Ebay now? I think it is a collectors series as well? Great guitar. Randy |
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Location: So. Cal. | Martin didn't have any problem selling their baby Martins at over 2K on the 5-28 and just under 1K for the 5-17 and 5-18. I always believe there is a market out there for everything. If you do it right, with a little luck, it will sell. |
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Location: NJ | Martin could pretty much build anything and not have a problem selling it . . . the plethora of "Signature Models" is testament to that . . . |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Just saw the "Bill Bixby" signature model. |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | I figured the Shaquille O'Neal signature version D-50 would be out before too long. :D
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | More seriously, I understand the Martin 00-16 "Women In Music" models are not selling that well. Guys (supposedly around 90% of the market for new guitars) pick them up, like the sound, see the WIM label, and put it down like a hot potato and buy a D-18!!!!
A shame, the WIM 00-16s are dreadnought-depth body and 00-size outline, a very unique combination.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | That is the problem with specialized models, while you can appeal to some you can also easily exclude many others. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | An East Coast Philosopher tells me that silver for a guitar is a kiss-of-death since people with either love it or hate it.
We sure be fickle. |
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Location: Warrenton, Virginia | I have a 0025 slothead..12 fret neck...small guitar with a great projection.....and great sustain. I have a D-35...that with over the years the sound has aged nicely....but the neck is like trying to play a railroad tie. It has no truss...so have to send it to get the neck re-set.
I like my ovations because I don't have to worry about the weather as much and the sound and neck are conistently good |
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Location: SoCal | Sam:
What year is your 0025? I've got a 1914 0018. Nylon strings. Great sound. Great front porch guitar. |
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Location: NJ | check this out:
http://www.martinguitar.com/artists/display_artist.php?d=267 |
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Location: Scotland | If we're talking Martin guitars, I'm pretty sure they have never made a style 25 in 00 size. Style 25 was fairly recent (mid to late 1980's) & if memory serves was a Koa guitar offered as a dreadnought only. |
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Location: SoCal | Paul, that is my understanding...I have a D-25-K2 (top, sides, and back Koa.) Also, came out with a D-25 with the sides and back Koa, spruce top. |
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Location: Warrenton, Virginia | Paul M.
Not as old as yours....I bought it in 1999/2000. I have played one similiar to your martin....great guitar!
Not sure when mine was made....but recent. will double check serial # this evening and let you know.
I think Paul Templeman is mistaken. Pretty sure mine is a 0025. (Although P TEMP has me thinking...it could be a 000'...but don't think so) I checked the Martin site and don't see it listed. It was a limited issue...not many made. Probably a custom. All of them were numbered and signed by chris martin. Mahog neck and Rosewood back and sides, tortis Shell picguard, ebony finger board. In about the $2800 to $3000 price range
It's definately not a Dread.....
This is a small body.....kind a like your nylon ...just with steel strings. a picture of it is in my Pics folder. Take a look. |
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Location: Warrenton, Virginia | ok PaulM & Templeman....
I goofed....it's a 0021 not a 0025...so TEMP...you are correct in saying there are no 0025's
so I'm sorry to have confused the situation...
I checked Martin and I still don't see the 0021...so I think I'm correct in saying it was Martin's desire to bring back that pre-war box and then they put it out as a limited.
I love the guitar...I just have to move it fromroom to room ....when we get bad humidity |
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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | There's an OM-21, but I don't believe there is a 00-21 currently.
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Location: Warrenton, Virginia | Roger
I think the 0021 is a limited issue. Idon't see them listed on the Martin site. |
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Why no USA smallbodies?
