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Location: SoCal | Got in the 2004 Al Di Miola today...absolutely gorgeous and an excellent player.
Black, gold signature on headstock, DEEP bowl, cutaway, OP-Pro with the lead boost (little black button on upper part of bowl.)
And abalone :cool: Basically a Custom Legend with minor engineering (slight deviation from A brace) and electronics.
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Location: Midland, MI | Oh, you guys and your DiMiola this and your Viper ash that and your Thunderhead whatsit and your Adamas whatitis. I'll never catch up.
Just me and my lonely Elite and Project Viper. All by ourselves.
Enough silliness.
Congrats! How does it sound? (hehe) PICTURES? Oh, and why black...don't they offer it in -4???
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Location: SoCal | Tony:
You're in a unique postion to tell us how the AD compares to your CL 30th. |
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Location: Australia | Congrats, what a beautiful guitar, certainly one of the best models in the current lineup.
I look forward to a full review ! |
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Location: Freeport, IL | Tony,
Congrats on the latest! Hope you love it and then trade it to me in the near future:-)
Best,
Jon |
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Location: Central Oregon | Glad to hear it got there. Is the boost from the button adjustable?
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Location: Zion, Illinois | I got to play a Al Di Miola at GC this summer. Nice nice guitar, very tempting.
The solution to your work problem Tony is to make guitar playing your work ;)
Enjoy, |
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Location: SoCal | Comparison between the current model 2004 1769-ADII and the limited run 2004 30th Anniv CL 1719-30CM.
Can't compare the ADII with other current Custom Legend models but the 1779 is a mid-bowl while the 1869 is a shallow. Of note is that the ADII is the only current Custom Legend model with a deep bowl.
Both are Custom Legends; w/OP-Pro (ADII has push button for solo lead-bumps output of preamp by 4dB; deep bowl; 30CM is non-cutaway, ADII is cutaway; 30CM is natural AAA bear claw spruce, ADII is black AAA spruce although natural is available; both A brace although previous news release indicated some modification of the A brace in the ADII; rosette is inlaid on ADII, raised rosette on 30CM; unsure if nut on ADII is bone, specific statement for 30CM that nut is bone; both have the binding and inlaid found on CL's; ADII has oiled walnut neck, 30CM has gloss neck.
Aesthetics: Personally, the bear claw spruce is stunning; the gold signature on the black headstock of the ADII is stunning (not sure what it looks like on natural); ebony bridge on ADII, carved walnut on the 30CM; some will like the cutaway.
Acoustic: My impression (and my loving but critical wife's) is that there is no comparison. The 30CM has rounder and richer tones, fuller, and more sustain. This is also true when comparing the 30CM with the deep bowl 1619 and 1669. Why? I can only suggest the bear claw spruce, possibly also the bone nut.
Plugged in: Unless the 4dB solo boost is desired, both guitars are similar.
Stage performing: The cutaway on the ADII may be important. Playing position would be similar as they are both deep bowl.
They are both outstanding examples of work. Both could easily be the primary 6-string for a player. So, as Bill says, ice cream? Comes down to personal preference. My preference is the 30CM although I know others would take the ADII. With either one, you wouldn't be disappointed. |
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Location: Anchorage, Alaska | Tony-Is the ebony bridge on the ADII carved? I've seen photo's with and without. Also is the neck on the ADII gloss black and the CM30 oiled walnut or the other way around. An older ADII I've had my eye on (about 3-4 years old) has a carved bridge and the gloss neck. |
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Location: SoCal | the ebony bridge on the ADII is not carved, it is like the one on my yr 2000 #6759 CL 12-str.
The 30CM neck is gloss, ADII is oiled walnut. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Sounds like two wonderful flavors of hand crafted-whole-milk-from-contented-cows Ice Cream you got there!
Isn't it great to have choices?
Don't worry about getting any work done - just hire someone else to worry about it for you. :eek: |
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Location: south east Michigan | Hmmm. My ADII bridge is carved. Take another look Tony.
Mine is the natural top without the Bear Claw. Can just the different type of spruce make that noticable a difference?
Mine is in the case right here under my desk. This thread makes me want to pull it out pull it out and play right now! |
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Location: SoCal | just above my desk:
1658 12-str CL slothead (4), the 30CM (4), the ADII (5), and the 6759 12-str CL (5)-also my MM68 mando (4) and the tenor uke (5). (4 is natural, 5 is black)
so, can reach and touch them :)
as to the ADII bridge - absolutely smooth, no carving or texture. ser # 577666. the picture on Ovations site shows a carved bridge but that could be a last year's picture. so, I don't know why two 2004 guitars have diffenent bridges.
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Location: south east Michigan | Having all those Ovations at would would be a real distraction for me.
That's odd about the the bridge. I wonder if they have "model years" or if they just change on the fly. |
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Location: SoCal | Wonder if the "plain" bridge was supposed to be carved, but was done the day after payday? |
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Location: SoCal | gee, now I feel cheated :(
does match the yr 2000 12-str so I will get over it. |
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Location: Australia | Hey Tony, thanks for the shootout between your 30th Ann and your Di Meola. I'm thinking about buying one of them and your comments were certainly helpful.
Just on the Di Meola carved bridge.I'm no expert but I think when they went to the new model with the inlayed rosette they also went for a plain ebony bridge.
I haven't seen the new natural finished model but in the pictures I've seen it looks like it's got a carved stained walnut bridge like my old Custom Legend.
Can anyone confirm ? |
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Location: SoCal | pictures posted by internet sellers posting or on the factory website - they are notorious for posting the wrong year, even the wrong model.
might be a good question for John or Kim although I would give Kim some slack as the Hamer tour is this weekend ;) :p ;) |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | Tony,
Congrats on your New Arrival. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I seem to be having a hard enough time saving up for a 6 string O. So I'm always happy when someone else on the site get another addition to their Ovation Collection.
Happy Playing! |
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New arrival - ADII
