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Islander
Posted 2004-11-06 1:14 AM (#174089)
Subject: 1317 Ultra


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Just aquired a 1317 Ultra Series. I'm not having much luck finding info on this model, so I cmae to the experts. what can you folks tell me?

Thanks
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Bailey
Posted 2004-11-06 1:48 AM (#174090 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra


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Welcome Islander

THere have been some good discussions of the Ultra, and it seems to be a good guitar. While waiting for some of the experts, try a search using the name Ultra. I have a Viper and I believe they are similar, except if I remember right the Ultra is molded plastic like the Bluebird.

Bailey
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Islander
Posted 2004-11-13 4:43 PM (#174091 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra


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Thought I'd bump this up one more time. Still not having any luck finding any information this model. Plays and sounds great. I guess thats the bottom line, but it would be nice to know something about it.
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Beal
Posted 2004-11-13 8:05 PM (#174092 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra



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If memory serves...... It's a USA made with a rosewood fingerboard and a foam neck. Or was that the Balladeer special.
Then the 1317 would be an acoustic, Moosup made body with a Tak made Ovation neck.

Does it have an add on heel? That's a good indicator.
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Islander
Posted 2004-11-14 8:58 PM (#174093 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra


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This appears to be the same as any Ovation I have ever seen. The inside lable states that it was made in the USA. I would be interested to know if the top is laminate or solid wood. Like I said it plays well and sounds good and thats the bottom line, but more knowledge of what I have would be good as well.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2004-11-14 9:08 PM (#174094 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra



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Islander,

I have a 1311 Ultra. The 1317 I think has fancier fretboard inlays (mine just has dots), and was called an Ultra Deluxe. The 1317 was made in just one year (1984). The top is definitely laminate ... that doesn't make it bad, just different! The neck is most likely aluminum and foam (they called it Urelite), as cwk said earlier.

Do you have any electronics on yours?

I have purchased other Ovations over the years ... all of them purportedly better. But for some reason, the trusty ol' Ultra would be the hardest to let go. Enjoy yours!
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Islander
Posted 2004-11-15 5:38 PM (#174095 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra


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The serial number does put it at an 84, and it has diamond inlays. It has a passive pickup with no controls. I agree it's a keeper unplugged and is more than acceptable plugged in.The neck looks like wood,how did the foam aluminum thing work? I've been an Ovation fan since the 70's but am just getting back to my "roots" after being a Martin guy for a long time. I'd forgotten what I was missing!
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Beal
Posted 2004-11-15 6:32 PM (#174096 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra



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If it has diamond inlays it is probably a wooden neck. Back to the question, can you see a glue line where the heel was added on? That's the way these were made.
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Islander
Posted 2004-11-15 6:39 PM (#174097 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra


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Have it in my lap as I type. There is deffinitely a glue line at the heel. Trying to negoitate the Ovation site and all I find so far is the original list price. You "big guys" are getting closer. It is appreciated, thanks.
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Beal
Posted 2004-11-15 6:55 PM (#174098 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra



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Thanks, That then is a Moosup built guitar. The neck was made by Takamine and supplied to us. Nice guitars and they all sounded pretty good as I recall.
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Islander
Posted 2004-11-15 7:18 PM (#174099 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra


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Being ignorant to the language, what is Moosup? (sounds Canadaian,no offence)
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Beal
Posted 2004-11-16 7:56 AM (#174100 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra



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It's a town in eastern CT where guitars were produced from 76 till 82. Probably over 100,000 guitars were built there, the applesause, medallion, matrix, B'd specials, the ultras, UK2s, the PF22s and that other one made from grafite.
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MWoody
Posted 2004-11-16 8:02 AM (#174101 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra



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"Being ignorant to the language, what is Moosup?"

That is the Northern version of "Cowboy Up!".

Listen to W2.
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Islander
Posted 2004-11-16 7:50 PM (#174102 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra


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W2, if I may be so bold as to call him by his first name is very apparently "the man". W2 your input has been greatly appreciated. MWoody, I'm from the North but I guess not that far North. We in this part of the country are very quietly saying go bucks! (Your reference to the moose thing was where I was going with my strange sense of humor)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-11-16 8:00 PM (#174103 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra


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In my catalogs, I find a 1312 and a 1517, but no 1317.
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Islander
Posted 2004-11-16 9:38 PM (#174104 - in reply to #174089)
Subject: Re: 1317 Ultra


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Paul, I don't have any old catalogs, but I do have The History of the Ovation Guitar by Walter Carter. I haven't had time to completely research the O web site but what I have searched for isn't turning up much on the 1317 Ultra. Since there are no flames yet, GO BUCKS! (we Ohioians seem to thrive on abuse!)
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