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Location: North Carolina | Recently Alaskan Fly Guy mentioned that his 05 Collectors doesn't have the deep bass of the AD. Moody then said that the bracing patterns are different. Bracing aside, how does the deep bass response of a deep bowl compare to the new contur bowl? My understanding from reading is that the contour is supposed to capture the bass of the deep but be easier to hold. Has a compromise been made in the bass for the contour?
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Very difficult to describe sound differences between various guitars. I also have an 05C and compare it to many other Ovation and Adamas models. It is true that some deep bowl guitars have more "bass" than the 05C, among others the 1537 and Adamas 1681. But I think it's very misleading to say it is because of the bowl. The truth is that the 1537 and 1681 are bass "heavy" and do not have the clear mid and upper end of the 05C. So in truth I think the issue is that the 05C is actually so perfectly balanced across the spectrum and our ears are not accostumed to that, so we think it "lacks" bass. Compared to my 1619 Custom legend, the 05C is far more balanced and clear. I think the differences that AFG hears between the AD and the 05C have nothing to do with the bowl. |
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Location: Anchorage, Alaska | I totaly agree with what Standingovation says. I might have misrepresented the 05C in the earlier post. My AD has a deeper voice but I don't think it is better. It is just different. What was said about our ears not accustomed to the perfect ballance of sound is probibly more true with me than most. My hearing is not the best (too much hunting and working in oil field facilities). I wouldn't trust my ears to know "the sound" if I had to. The 05C is a wonderful guitar and I love it. In fact last night I decided I was not going to change a thing on the 05C. There are some songs where the brigher voice is just what the doctor ordered and on others the deeper sound is just right. I feel blessed that I am lucky enough to have to option of choosing between a few very nice Ovations guitars when I sit down to play. I can't see how anyone would be disappointed with the 2005 Collectors. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I think Dave is dead on in his assessment. The 1537 and the 1681 are both bottom heavy and lack the claifity on the mids and highs that the 05 and my 30th ltd ed have. Different sounds, neither better or worse than the other but definately suited for different styles.
Isn't that why we have so many different "O"s? |
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Location: SoCal | Until Ovation builds several guitars with the only variable being the bowl, there's no way give a truly accurate answer. The models are what they are. The contoured bowls have more volume than the shallow bowls and just slightly less than the original deep bowls. But the tops and the top bracing make a huge difference. When you compare the 05 Collectors to the 1537, there are so many different variables, that you can't pick out one and ask to quanify the difference of that one. |
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Location: Phoenix, AZ | Please help me out here. Isn't the 05C "essentially" a Custom Legend LX with the contour bowl (still made out of the "newer" lighter material) instead of the round bowl and a different top wood? If this is true, and if, a big if, we can differentiate sound differences between the top woods, then any other sound difference between the two should be attributable to the difference between contour and round bowls. Or, am I way off base here? I'm under the impression from various posts and the Factory's releases the contour bowl should produce no less or worse sound than a Legend LX or Custom Legend LX while being more comfortable to play both sitting and standing. Am I missing something here? |
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Location: SoCal | Now that probably would be a good comparison..... |
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Contour vs. deep bowl
