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stellarjim
Posted 2005-04-26 11:49 AM (#153407)
Subject: 12 String Deep Bodies


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Does O make a 12 String Deep Body?
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MWoody
Posted 2005-04-26 11:56 AM (#153408 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies



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Only if you ask nicely, pay quickly and wait a long time - Custom Orders!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-04-26 12:05 PM (#153409 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies


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Don't custom order a 12 deep bowl now. Wait until next year and get a contoured bowl 12.
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cliff
Posted 2005-04-26 12:09 PM (#153410 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies


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Or buy an older. pre-owned model . . .
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Alaskan Fly Guy
Posted 2005-04-26 12:14 PM (#153411 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies


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I sure like my 1118-4 Glen Campbell 12 string with a deep body and no cutaway. If you can find one of these in good condition you would probibly like it. Mine is a 1974 model.
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Mitchrx
Posted 2005-04-26 12:48 PM (#153412 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies


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I agree with Cliff. There are losts of very nice pre-owned deep bowl 12 string models out there. Most are in really good shape because they don't get played as often as their 6 string counterparts and most guitarists who have a 12 string have other guitars also. I have a near mint condition 1755 Custom Balladeer that I bought on eBay from the original owner. I think it was one of the first 12 string O's to have the neck joined at the 14th fret. It sounds really fine acoustically and unreal plugged-in. The guitar is 20 years old, but looks and plays like new with low action.

Look around for an older one. It won't take you any longer than waiting for a custom order from the factory and will cost you less than half the price of a new one. If you don't like eBay, contact Al Pepiak and see if he can help you find one.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-04-26 5:19 PM (#153413 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies


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I have a 1982-vintage 1118 Glen Campbell 12-string, and I can attest that they sound wonderful, especially the 12-fret-to-the-body models. Watch out for a twist in the neck (from being stored for long periods of time with the strings at full tension) if you get an older one.

Roger
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Abendicum
Posted 2005-04-26 7:34 PM (#153414 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies


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My 12 fret, 1118 Glen Campbell, deep bowl, is my favorite guitar... since I only play a 12 string... w/4 pair of strings in a alternative tuning... it is 29 yrs old I think... No electrics which doesn't bother me, in the least...

The Guitar is very light, unlike my new 6751-4 which has a sweet tone but heavier neck, which tends to make it harder to hold up... I guess the longer neck with the 14 fret and Kaman bar add considerably to the weight of the neck which tends to be harder to hold up...it dramaticaly affects the balance of the guitar... One of those things you wouldn't notice unless you had 2 or more guitars to compare...

The neck is thinner on my 1118, which I prefer and the width is the same... I just enjoy playing the Glen Cambell so much more... it fits me better, I guess...

The slot head is killer too...

Ab
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stellarjim
Posted 2005-04-26 10:39 PM (#153415 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies


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Thanks guys. I'll start digging into an Ebayer Glen Campbell model. I've always enjoyed the sound of the 12 fret to body models. I'm not sure why they seem to sound sweeter but my experience has been just that. I also think I'm finished with the shallow and mid depth bodies. I love the tone that pours out of the deep bodies and thought a 12 string deep bowl with 12 frets to the body might be my dream guitar

Jim
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cliff
Posted 2005-04-27 7:46 AM (#153416 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies


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Look into a Pacemaker as well. 12-fret.
I just picked up an acoustic-only one, cheap.
If/when I strighten out some of the issues with this particular guitar, It'll be a sweet one . . .
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MWoody
Posted 2005-04-27 2:20 PM (#153417 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies



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I think I'll be looking for a 1615 soon myself now that summer and campfires are upon us!

Had one and miss it now.
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Steve
Posted 2005-04-27 3:52 PM (#153418 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies


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The 1758 Elite was a great sounding deep bowl 12-string...

Steve
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stellarjim
Posted 2005-04-27 10:05 PM (#153419 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies


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Is this the kind of guitar we're talking about?
Is this a good guitar? If so, I'm going to take a swing. Let me know what you think. I wasn't able to find anything on the Ovation website about this specific guitar.
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2005-04-27 10:10 PM (#153420 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies
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The 1758 is a spectacular deep-bowl 12 string and if I ever get another it's not going anywhere.. till I pass on... The Glen Campbell Abendicum is speaking of is(I believe) the one he got from me... also a great, bold and bright, and very solid Ovation 12.

God Bless,

Glenn
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stellarjim
Posted 2005-04-27 11:04 PM (#153421 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies


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Here's a GC model on Ebay now. The ad doesn't say what model this is so I'm not sure if this is the guitar we're discussing or not.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33029&item=7...

Jim
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-04-28 1:33 AM (#153422 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies



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depending on condition, low price; seen them as high as $750
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Abendicum
Posted 2005-04-28 4:48 AM (#153423 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies


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The Glen Cambell looks like the light brown body... Looks to be textured from the pics...

All 12 fret's have no Kaman Bar, just single truss rod, same as we are all raving about, just older than mine...

Standing Ovation should know the model. The ebay add claims 1982. The label is visible inside the soundhole so the model number is available, ask the seller for that and S/N.

Quoted from your the ebay add link-

"THERE IS SOME AGE CHECKING IN THE CLEAR COAT ON THE TOP BEHIND THE BRIDGE"

This is a common ailement with old 12 strings... The "Checking is more likely a CRACK in the top... It directly affects what it's worth, but doesn't affect tone in a negative way... as long as the contour of the top is not compromised... and no bracing is broken or come unglued...

Besides you don't have to worry about it as much cause its already distressed...

I went to a Keith Urban concert earlier this year and checked his guitar out with my binoculars...

His stage acoustic had 3 raised cracks behind bridge on his 6 string... Didn't seem to bother him or his sound quality one bit...

May be the seller could give you a close up pic of the area in question...

For me I 'll keep the 29 yr, aged spruce top, cracks and all, would sound different with new top or repaired top, not neccesarily "BETTER"...

Ab
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Steve
Posted 2005-04-28 3:43 PM (#153424 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies


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Glenn Hess,...
I had a 1758, bought it (new) as a reconditioned instrument, altough I inspected it inside and out and could never find a flaw; sold it to a musician at a music store in the conyers/covington (geogia) area...It was sunburst, had excellant action, been kicking myself ever since..

Steve
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stellarjim
Posted 2005-04-28 4:14 PM (#153425 - in reply to #153407)
Subject: Re: 12 String Deep Bodies


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Thanks Ab:
I think I'll give the seller a call to discuss the aging cracks and model number. Looks like it might be a fine sounding guitar. These age cracks can't be too big because there are 2 clear close ups behind the bridge and there is certainly no sign of them.

One of the things I like about Ebay is that it combines shopping for fun things (like guitars) with gambling. I've picked up many a bargain from Ebay...but until you have the product in hand, it's a little bit of a gamble. I've never been "burned" yet. Come close a couple times but have never been burned.

Jim
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