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jyam4
Posted 2005-05-17 8:56 PM (#150510)
Subject: Question - Removing bridge/saddle shims


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Location: Orlando, Florida
Hey guys...
Does anyone have an effective way to remove saddle shims from a new Ovation without ruining the strings? This guitar has a brand new set of EXP strings, and I would like to get some use out of them, but the saddle is too high to enjoy playing. Any suggestions?
Joe
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MWoody
Posted 2005-05-17 9:01 PM (#150511 - in reply to #150510)
Subject: Re: Question - Removing bridge/saddle shims



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Location: Upper Left USA
The real question may be: "How many wraps should I have on the tuner posts?". I have "cheated" by slacking down completely and working out the bridge but it has some level of risk.
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jyam4
Posted 2005-05-17 9:11 PM (#150512 - in reply to #150510)
Subject: Re: Question - Removing bridge/saddle shims


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Location: Orlando, Florida
I've done that too, with some success, but like you said, there's a risk of damage. This is the only time that bridge pins would be an advantage. With bridge pins, you capo the neck to keep the strings in line, you loosen the strings, remove bridge pins and saddle. Then reverse the process, tighten the strings, all done!
Joe
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Mitchrx
Posted 2005-05-17 9:31 PM (#150513 - in reply to #150510)
Subject: Re: Question - Removing bridge/saddle shims


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Location: Carle Place, NY
I've done this many times, even on 12 string O's. Take a string winder and loosen the strings as much as possible. Then CAREFULLY lift up the saddle and remove the shims.
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jyam4
Posted 2005-05-17 9:50 PM (#150514 - in reply to #150510)
Subject: Re: Question - Removing bridge/saddle shims


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Location: Orlando, Florida
Did they have a pickup? I ask because on the "high output" pickups, they're attached to the saddle, and the wire seems really thin. I'd rather lose the strings than the pickup!
Joe
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worshipleader
Posted 2005-05-18 4:09 AM (#150515 - in reply to #150510)
Subject: Re: Question - Removing bridge/saddle shims


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Location: NW NJ
None of my shims have ever been attached to the pickup.
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Jim D
Posted 2005-05-18 6:59 AM (#150516 - in reply to #150510)
Subject: Re: Question - Removing bridge/saddle shims


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Posts: 110

Location: Peoria, Illinois
I have removed shims 2 ways. First one was to loosen and remove strings from the tuning posts, gently slide them back to the bridge, but not remove them. Lift pick-up and slide out 1 or 2 shims. Then re-attach the stings and tune up. No damage to the stings.

Method 2 (I do this with my 12-sting) is to really loosten all the stings, but leave them attached to the tuners. Then using a finger pull up on all the strings right near the saddle/pickup and slide the treble side up. The shims can be removed and saddle/pickup placed back in position. Then tune up. I like this for the 12-string as it saves a lot of work.

Hope this helps. It surprised me how the shims are really BELOW the saddle/pickup structure (OPP), so unless you damage the wire running to this, chances of causing problems are minimal if you are careful.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-05-18 8:10 PM (#150517 - in reply to #150510)
Subject: Re: Question - Removing bridge/saddle shims


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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI
I'm sympathetic to not wanting to "lose" a new set of EXP strings, but I've never been able to loosen the strings sufficiently to work the bridge up enough to get the shims out without just REMOVING them and putting new ones on. If I know I'm going to remove or add a shim, I always use a regular set of D'Addarios and save the EXPs for after I've settled on the action.

Roger
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