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eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str

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ChatMan
Posted 2005-07-15 9:32 AM (#144424 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str


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Chatman and Waskel square off. Face to face, 20 paces separating two desperate men, the noon sun bakes the sweating pair. Each eyeing the other, waiting, senses acutely tuned to change. The first to move initiates an inexhorable sequence. One that, once begun, must grind to its inevitable, as yet unknown, conclusion.

Suddenly, without warning, Chatman blinks.

A new awareness is apparent in his eyes, he has the look of new found knowledge. Glancing down, he sees to his horror, that he has forgotten his pants. Unable to continue, he awakens.


Hey Waskel, come on in, the water's fine.
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ChatMan
Posted 2005-07-15 9:35 AM (#144425 - in reply to #144399)
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Oh the dweaded Waskel has stwuck. You could have at least let me bask in my winning bid for a few more minutes.
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stephent28
Posted 2005-07-15 9:35 AM (#144426 - in reply to #144399)
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The mysteriousness is that it works at all :confused:
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-15 9:38 AM (#144427 - in reply to #144399)
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Originally posted by ChatMan:
Hey Waskel, come on in, the water's fine.
Can't right now. I've got my pants on. :D
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Jim D
Posted 2005-07-15 9:49 AM (#144428 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str


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I am looking at it too. How much of the value would be lost if this was sent back to the factory for a reconditioning?
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ChatMan
Posted 2005-07-15 9:51 AM (#144429 - in reply to #144399)
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Couldn't say for sure, but I would guess that the answer is "less than if you didn't"
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-15 10:00 AM (#144430 - in reply to #144399)
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Skinny's probably right. With the top damage, I can't see this being worth much if you didn't get it fixed.

(wave of hand) These aren't the droids you're looking for.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-15 10:09 AM (#144431 - in reply to #144399)
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Here\'s one that doesn't need any work.
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Jim D
Posted 2005-07-15 10:40 AM (#144432 - in reply to #144399)
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Any other slot head 12's out there to look at? (wave of the hand), I am not looking at this one......

What I DO like about this ebay item is the slot head and 12 fret neck.
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2005-07-15 2:05 PM (#144433 - in reply to #144399)
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If what Cliff says is true...that the top needs to be replaced (a judgement call, but I tend to agree), then you have to take into account that when the boys at the factory replace a top, they also replace the bowl and the bridge. They take a band saw to it and cut off everything a couple of inches from the neck. Then they unbolt the remains and rebuild. So...you're essentially bidding on a neck. It is a beautiful neck, though. My point is that you kind of wind up with a different guitar.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-15 5:19 PM (#144434 - in reply to #144399)
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Thanks, bhb. Keep my optimism up. :rolleyes:
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-07-15 6:18 PM (#144435 - in reply to #144399)
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bridge does not appear to be lifting (also confirmed by seller) and other "stress" finish cracks that would indicate top replacement...of course, only the factory would be able to make that judgement (and they are on a vacation break).

it is a risk but if, as the seller has stated, there are no playability problems (bridge, neck, etc.) then pretty good chance the cracks just need to be sealed. this will never be cosmetically perfect but should be able to get the finish cracks smooth and look close to the grain. note that the finish cracks are not into the inlaid...heck, the custom elite I just bought has a finish crack into the inlaid.

the cracks look bad because they are old with oil, dirt, whatever that has gotten in there. if one of the cracks is through the wood, seal the bottom as you are sealing the top. again, these do not look like fresh cracks so at least you know what you've got.

fill, sand, buff...a good home project.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-15 9:07 PM (#144436 - in reply to #144399)
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I'm going to have it sent to the mothership when they get back from vacation on 8/1. I'd like to see what they think about it.

Thank you for all your advice, Tony.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-07-16 10:47 AM (#144437 - in reply to #144399)
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Waskel,
It's a good grab.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-16 11:12 AM (#144438 - in reply to #144399)
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nope, got sniped. :( Wasn't meant to be.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-16 11:24 AM (#144439 - in reply to #144399)
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Glenn, I'm still looking at the pictures and thinking. Very attractive price on a decent guitar, but I'm still kind of hoping for a Balladeer to jump out at me and say "BUY ME"!
My brain hasn't said no to the Ultra, however.
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Jim D
Posted 2005-07-16 11:35 AM (#144440 - in reply to #144399)
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Waskel,

Sorry you got sniped on that 12-string. As soon as I saw that you and I were bidding against each other, I stopped and just followed the bid.

I am really a new instrument kind of guy but I have this thing about wanting a slot head guitar.
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stephent28
Posted 2005-07-16 12:19 PM (#144441 - in reply to #144399)
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Jim....satisfy both desires....get the U681T :D
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Jim D
Posted 2005-07-16 12:27 PM (#144442 - in reply to #144399)
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I hear you man. Al has one I believe. I wonder what kind of shape it is in. Does it have the same issues that the others that were sent back to the factory had? Al????
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2005-07-16 6:16 PM (#144443 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str
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no problem waskel,

The CL would have been a good grab in my opinion but then I would have done a DIY on the cracks and still been very happy.

been playing it(ultra) for three days now since the new set-up and strings went with the elixir special 11's and has some good punch still say it sounds like my balladeer's more like the 1112 than the 1111, plugged in sounds nice and bright.

God Bless,

Glenn
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-07-16 7:41 PM (#144444 - in reply to #144399)
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When I'm not so lazy ;) , I'll probably put a 1658 CL a/e or the GC acoustic,(both dark sunburst) out on the "for sale"; or maybe the A-347 shiny bowl Balladeer slothead acoustic.

Maybe even the 1659 CL a/e (regular headstock, dark sunburst);

The keeper is the natural 1658 that the factory did such a great job on. Nice to have a 25 year old classic that is as-new.
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stephent28
Posted 2005-07-16 7:50 PM (#144445 - in reply to #144399)
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Jim, even if it did have some issues, the factory will stand behind it and make it like new (or better). Don't let all of our early bad press scare you off. Everyone is delioursly happy now and the guitar is a tone monster!

If Al has one or can get you one, you need to jump all over it! Remember...limited to 100!
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