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1537 Has Plywood Top ???

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Standingovation
Posted 2005-10-17 10:58 PM (#133201 - in reply to #133151)
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Mark, I have string tubes available. Email me if you want some. Dave
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-10-18 12:12 AM (#133202 - in reply to #133151)
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Mark, I knew an attorney once, who, you'd listen to and he'd sound brillant. But if you read the transcript of what he just said, you'd have no earthly idea of what he was saying. It's true and it was the damnedest thing.

Dave, you're right about the 1537's. One of the best guitars Ovation ever built. Regardless of how they did it.

By the way, I just had the back of my 87 Collectors open and it was the exact same way, with the birch (or whatever) in back of the upper bout.
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Buckaroo
Posted 2005-10-18 9:04 AM (#133203 - in reply to #133151)
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When you read "solid top", maybe they're describing how sturdy it is. Like Moody said, who cares how they build it. When the sound is rich we benefit. After all, these guitars were designed by engineers in the first place, and we all know how they are. Plywood and plastic have always worked well together. I've got a wonderful chair made that way, but it sounds awful.
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an4340
Posted 2005-10-18 9:09 AM (#133204 - in reply to #133151)
Subject: Re: 1537 Has Plywood Top ???


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I don't think you should worry about it being "plywood". I don't know how many layers it is, but it doesn't matter. Think in terms of layering veneer for strength. Luthiers actually go out of their way to mix different types of wood to come up with a uniquely voiced intstrument: like the one here.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-10-18 9:19 AM (#133205 - in reply to #133151)
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Is a solid top any less a solid top because it has braces glued to it? That birch bracing is no different...

What is different is a plywood top, that's formed from a wood mash under pressure to form a board.....
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-10-18 11:43 AM (#133206 - in reply to #133151)
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Dave, I don't need string tubes. As I said in that thread we wasted on string tubes, I'm going to try catheters next time. Since my wife is a nurse, I have access to a large supply. I just haven't got up the nerve to ask her yet.
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Beal
Posted 2005-10-18 4:17 PM (#133207 - in reply to #133151)
Subject: Re: 1537 Has Plywood Top ???



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And the answer is:
It's a solid top. The veneer(adamas core material, birch) was 1 layer run cross grain to keep the top from breaking between the holes, either in production or in the field. It does improve the highs slightly but that is mostly marketing rhetoric ( I know most of you spotted that immediately).
Most guitars of this style have this reinforcement.
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JeffreyD
Posted 2005-10-18 4:33 PM (#133208 - in reply to #133151)
Subject: Re: 1537 Has Plywood Top ???


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So after the discussion is all done....

1) I suppose the sudden surge in value will now decline after this topic and

2) It is probably too late, but I will gladly pay shipping and $5 for your trouble to anyone not wanting to pay the garbage fee for your servicable 1537. I do this with the same sincerity that you all offered to buy my 1537 for about six months ago (when I didn't know what I had) :D
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-10-18 4:37 PM (#133209 - in reply to #133151)
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Well, you can buy mine, but the top is rather soggy (it rained) and smells of doggy doo from being in the trash where I threw it. I think I'll just put it next to the radiator and see if it dries out.....
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MWoody
Posted 2005-10-18 5:02 PM (#133210 - in reply to #133151)
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Paul,
Just send it too me. We're approaching our rainy season so it can acclimate gradually.
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NY Norm
Posted 2005-10-19 2:41 PM (#133211 - in reply to #133151)
Subject: Re: 1537 Has Plywood Top ???


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I was just looking at the 2005 LX catalog, and there are pictures of the inside of the Elite soundboard. The intent was to show the scalloped bracing, but the reinforcement around the soundholes can be clearly seen.
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Beal
Posted 2005-10-19 5:00 PM (#133212 - in reply to #133151)
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Sorry it took so long for an answer.
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