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bauerhillboy
Posted 2005-11-28 1:45 PM (#128146)
Subject: Silly Question


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So...12 fret slotheads sound better and (a smaller point) are more comfortable with your left hand in closer to your body. So why aren't they more common? Every time I pick up my 6778 LX I look at it and think "Why did they make you a 14 fret? They knew you wouldn't sound as good as a 12 fret."
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-11-28 1:51 PM (#128147 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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Not everybody wants a 12 fret slothead. Many people want the extra 2 frets and many others don't want to change strings on a slothead. There are tradeoffs with both types of guitars.
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an4340
Posted 2005-11-28 1:53 PM (#128148 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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Well, no question is silly, but you're lucky, because your question, if you think about it, also contains your answer.
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cliff
Posted 2005-11-28 1:55 PM (#128149 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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12-frets and/or slotheads deem to be looked upon (by the "unenlightened") as "old fashioned". . .
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-11-28 2:45 PM (#128150 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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If speaking pure physics and all else being equal (esp scale length), a 12fret slot will impart more energy from string virbation to the body of the guitar, thus adding tone and volume compared to 14 fret with solid peghead.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-11-28 2:54 PM (#128151 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question



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It's a lot more difficult to get a slothead to hold your joint securely. Dave
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cliff
Posted 2005-11-28 3:02 PM (#128152 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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Amateur.
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Weaser P
Posted 2005-11-28 3:26 PM (#128153 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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Just gotta roll them a little phatter, Dave.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2005-11-28 3:28 PM (#128154 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question



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Do it right and it makes a very nice six-pack, indeed.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-11-28 3:48 PM (#128155 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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Dave,
To make the joint at the headstock hold properly, one should cut the scarf at approximately 15degrees and mate them precisely, leveling each face if necessary. Don't add too much glue and clamp securely. Then laminate with a headstock veneer of your choice. Shouldn't have any problems with that joint holding.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-11-28 3:54 PM (#128156 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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Uh, Jeff, I don't think he was talking about that kind of joint.....
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-11-28 4:01 PM (#128157 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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Oh. Well, I certainly don't recommend a "V-joint", they won't hold nearly as well, and they are much labor intensive and difficult to fit properly.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-11-28 4:02 PM (#128158 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question



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The best thing I ever saw was a guitarist friend of mine in high school back in 1974. In 4th period metal shop he brazed an aligator clip onto a pinky ring. Brilliant guy. Dave
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-11-28 4:05 PM (#128159 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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I just use a harmonica holder and line 'em up.
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Weaser P
Posted 2005-11-28 4:05 PM (#128160 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Oh. Well, I certainly don't recommend a "V-joint", they won't hold nearly as well, and they are much labor intensive and difficult to fit properly.
Exactly what I was sayin'. Now could someone pass the Frito's?
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-11-28 4:10 PM (#128161 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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Don't bogart them munchies my friend...
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Mitchrx
Posted 2005-11-28 4:17 PM (#128162 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
I just use a harmonica holder and line 'em up.
Now that's a thing weed love to see!! :eek: :D
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2005-11-28 6:12 PM (#128163 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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I have a 1118 Glen Campbell 12-fret slothead 12-string. I would agree that 12-fret slotheads have an inherent advantage for sound, but my experience is that the neck feels a little "short", plus I really hate changing strings on it. No more 12-frets for me, and I would only consider purchasing a 14-fret slothead 6-string in the future.

Roger
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-11-28 6:39 PM (#128164 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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I'm going to take a little closer look at Dave's gallery. All I need is a beer holder. Since I don't use a microphone, I've found that sitting next to an amp with a minimum amount of surface area on top works fine. So far I haven't spilled any beer on anything critical.
I think I need a bigger amp, though, so I can still reach the beer when I kick back in the lazy boy. I've also found that the guitar rarely slides off my lap in that position and I get good resonance off the ceiling. I'm really into this high tech stuff.
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Weaser P
Posted 2005-11-28 8:27 PM (#128165 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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Me too, Mark. What kinda Lazy Boy we talkin' here? The one with the cup, remote holder and vibrating captain's seat? Oh yeah, baby...the Porsche of the Living Room... that's what I'm takin' bout.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-11-28 10:32 PM (#128166 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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Actually, it's not even a real LB. It's some old worn out off brand. Had a real one in the basement music room, but it broke and we gave it away.
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2005-11-29 5:57 AM (#128167 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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I always value a direct response to a question.
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Weaser P
Posted 2005-11-29 7:42 AM (#128168 - in reply to #128146)
Subject: Re: Silly Question


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I'm sorry...was there a question in there somewhere?...oh, look...another shiny coin...ooo...
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