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CrimsonLake
Posted 2012-01-21 8:12 PM (#80)
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"In the lower right of posts you should see the edit, reply, qoute options and at the bottom should be a QUICK REPLY BOX"

I can't see any of those things.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2012-01-21 8:41 PM (#81 - in reply to #80)
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Can you reply now? (You may have to log out and log in again.)
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2012-01-21 8:43 PM (#82 - in reply to #80)
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Now I can see it all. What was the problem... permissions?
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Lcase
Posted 2012-01-21 8:50 PM (#83 - in reply to #80)
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Yeah the permission sets are rather expansive and frankly poorly laid out. Good they are expansive but rather awkward to set up initially. thanks for the assist.
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Lcase
Posted 2012-01-21 8:51 PM (#84 - in reply to #80)
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LOL... I'm logged in as Lisa.... Time for more coffee :)

-Miles
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2012-01-21 8:52 PM (#85 - in reply to #80)
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And suddenly, like magic, it works.

(now where are the smileys)
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2012-01-21 9:19 PM (#86 - in reply to #80)
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smileys should show on the reply page... not in this quick-reply box

http://www.ovationfanclub.com.asp1-8.dfw1-1.websitetestlink.com/bb/...
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2012-01-21 9:27 PM (#87 - in reply to #80)
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Mr. Ovation wrote:
smileys should show on the reply page... not in this quick-reply box

http://www.ovationfanclub.com.asp1-8.dfw1-1.websitetestlink.com/bb/...


Just so long as the child in me can have Toys! ;)
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bburg
Posted 2012-01-21 10:08 PM (#88 - in reply to #80)
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Okay, now I think I've to go to school again....
Bernie
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Nick B.
Posted 2012-01-21 11:14 PM (#89 - in reply to #80)
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Lcase wrote:
LOL... I'm logged in as Lisa.... Time for more coffee :)


Hey Lisa, Tell Miles I said thank you!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2012-01-26 10:37 AM (#448730)
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Hello... The "Preview Reply" ain't Previewing for me.

Just thought I would mention that... Anybody else having a similar problem?
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Auriemma
Posted 2012-01-26 11:43 AM (#448731 - in reply to #448730)
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Same here.... Reply Preview isn't working.
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standing
Posted 2012-01-26 4:41 PM (#448732 - in reply to #448730)
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No previews here either (using Safari)…
I get a brief "loading preview" beneath the reply box, but then it disappears.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2012-01-26 5:17 PM (#448733 - in reply to #448730)
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Thanks. Unfortunatly or fortunately Im focusing 24/7 on bringing the new software online. I'm shooting for this weekend.
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standing
Posted 2012-01-26 5:41 PM (#448734 - in reply to #448730)
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I just discovered that you can now delete an accidental double post… that's a good thing…
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2012-01-26 6:30 PM (#448743)
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standing wrote:
I just discovered that you can now delete an accidental double post… that's a good thing…


Probably only programmers will understand this, but allowing users to DELETE anything on a database system that is so unreliable that it "DOUBLE POSTS" has to be one the most ironic demonstrations of bad coding I have ever seen.
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Waskel
Posted 2012-01-26 7:15 PM (#448744 - in reply to #448743)
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True, but as far as I know the only way to prevent double posts in a situation like this is to either index every post by user as unique or enable flood control.
The former has to be a space/performance killer, and the second is just annoying.
As a DB programmer, I'd be interested if you have a different technique, Miles.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2012-01-26 7:24 PM (#448745 - in reply to #448743)
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Many of my double posts are just User Error.

But I have been using the delete feature when I discover that my images are not coming-out as images, but just a link.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2012-01-27 7:49 AM (#448746 - in reply to #448743)
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Waskel_dup1 wrote:
True, but as far as I know the only way to prevent double posts in a situation like this is to either index every post by user as unique or enable flood control.
The former has to be a space/performance killer, and the second is just annoying.
As a DB programmer, I'd be interested if you have a different technique, Miles.


While many times it's user error (clicking more than once) that can be prevented by employing a couple of things, first and foremost is optimize performance so people don't get lulled into the "didnt it take, did I click" etc..

There are some more aggressive tactics but you really don't want to allow anyone to delete something if there is a reply. That can really make a mess especially on here where threads get to be pages and pages long. Someone long gone could delete their post at the front and the whole thread is dead. There are ways around that too, but in reality... when dealing with db's online.. performance is key. When performance is up the preview option works better, it's just exponential.

FYI some other tactics include qualified checks.. like if the poster is responding to a post they made, within 2 seconds (or maybe 5 seconds) do a quick checksum between the current and previous content or even a cheap comparison of length check would eliminate most double posts. With stored procedures in the DB, there are endless possibilities to check potential double posts if it becomes an issue without having to modify much code.

There are forums that I run that are larger and busier than this one as far as posting where a double post is very very rare... as they should be. Once in awhile.. it happens.. but daily... something is wrong.
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