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Silly Question.... How do you know which "F"
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| Yak |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 347 Location: Reno, NV | How do you determine which "F" someone intended you to use, when they write chords, like you would see on the Tab sites. I prefer X03211 to 133211 for obvious reasons. Is there any rule as to when one just works better? 133211 is fuller, but similar, can you just substitue one for the other at any time? | ||
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| gh1 |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 972 Location: PDX | Depends on the structure of the song: where the melody notes are and what the bass line is doing. However, if your just strumming chords and using the guitar to accompany your voice, it's probably not going to matter which one your using. As in most things: decide for yourself what works for you and what doesn't. _____ gh1 | ||
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| alpep |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583 Location: NJ | when it doubt cowboy chords are the default. | ||
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| Mitchrx |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 1071 Location: Carle Place, NY | X33211 is another way to play F. You can do an alternating bass on the 4th and 5th strings. | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | 087565 | ||
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| Weaser P |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5332 Location: Bluffton, SC | Or there's always 13;12;10;10;10;13 if you've got GINORMOUS hands that have no idea what a real cramp is ('cause they will afterwards). | ||
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| Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I though this was a question about Conversational New Yawkese | ||
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| Weaser P |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5332 Location: Bluffton, SC | Could be - never met one myself. Unless you consider gestures conversation. | ||
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| Tim in Yucaipa |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Yucaipa, California | ..."F" Chord? ..yeah, right. Like there really IS an "F" chord..... :rolleyes: | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | don't tell Moody...... | ||
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| an4340 |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389 Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | x 1 2 3 x x Use the first finger to mute the high e string. Use your thumb to muter the low e and a strings. I don't know what you call it, but I use it for an f major chord when playing a bo diddley, reggae or punk rhthym. Lot's easier for a simp like me. | ||
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| Jason_S |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 2804 Location: ranson,wva | even thats too hard for a simp like me...i just stick the the 4 first position chords..lol jason | ||
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| Omaha |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 1126 Location: Omaha, NE | Back to the original question...in my mind it comes down to what you are reading. If the author/composer really thinks it is important to play a particular chord in a particular way, he should spell that out with a diagram. Standard chord notation is completely ambiguous. I've never sat down and tried to figure out how many ways there are to play an F chord, but there's a bunch. So, unless the music tells you something different, play it however you want. Just listen to it and make sure it sounds good. But you should also be fluent in the major barre chord shapes: E, A and C. The F chord is just the E shape with a barre behind it. The F chord posted above by cwk2 can be thought of as a C chord shape played with a barre at the fifth fret. There's lots of ways to do it. Try them all! | ||
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| MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13996 Location: Upper Left USA | The actual chord-ination depends on the actual key you are in and the finger phrasing of the udder chords. Less movement is better. | ||
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| Nasdtrader |
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Joined: February 2007 Posts: 75 Location: Portland, OR | "Rock, hit the one in the middle".. sorry, that probably doesn't help. but it might, so i post it. | ||
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| Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by an4340: That is the lazy-man's F... I use it allatime. Unless I HAVE to use the full bar(re) version. x 1 2 3 x x Use the first finger to mute the high e string. Use your thumb to muter the low e and a strings. I don't know what you call it, but I use it for an f major chord when playing a bo diddley, reggae or punk rhthym. Lot's easier for a simp like me. 'cept I don't mute nuthin, I just don't hit the E & A, but I do hit the little e. I adds a nice little ping. Works well on some CSN&Y stuff. [Someone might tell us that it is an F7] | ||
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| Paulcc1 |
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Joined: September 2004 Posts: 1180 Location: Vermont USA | I think it's an Fmaj7 Pauly | ||
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| Shot in the Dark |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 54 Location: Taiwan | On some pieces it seems you need to go with the full bar because hitting the (low F) baseline note and then getting to a lazy F is even harder. I'm new and it's all hard for me, so I decided to just learn the hard one and get it over with. It's like learning to drive on a stick (not automatic) or fly in a taildragger (not a nosewheel.) Better in the long run. Words of wisdom from he who knows nothing. | ||
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| ozwatto |
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Joined: January 2007 Posts: 672 Location: New South Wales, Australia | If it feels good..do it :cool: | ||
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| Capo Guy |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 4394 Location: East Tennessee | Originally posted by Tim Chapman: There is an F chord, but not for banjos. :D..."F" Chord? ..yeah, right. Like there really IS an "F" chord..... :rolleyes: | ||
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| Tim in Yucaipa |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Yucaipa, California | ....that explains a lot! | ||
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| an4340 |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389 Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Arthur, This F x x x 1 3 3 Is a power chord, ala the metal and or punk world. I use a bar on the first fret that mutes the three high strings, and then the middle finger to bar the low e and a. These little tricks let me do things I normally shouldn't be able to do. Musically speaking. | ||
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| fillhixx |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4833 Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | xx7565 is a usefull F chord in a couple YES songs. | ||
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| ProfessorBB |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by an4340: I use it this way as a muted Fmaj7.x 1 2 3 x x I don't know what you call it, but I use it for an f major chord when playing a bo diddley, reggae or punk rhthym. Lot's easier for a simp like me. | ||
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| FlicKreno aka Solid Top |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491 Location: Copenhagen Denmark | After a case o`beer U could n`t care less..U would n`t be able too... :) Vic :cool: | ||
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Silly Question.... How do you know which "F"