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puddnheadwilson
Posted 2007-03-22 10:20 PM (#109330)
Subject: Upgrading to newer electronics


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My 6868 with the OP24+ has electrical gremlins. Since I'm about to spend $$, I wondered if I couldn't go to present day electronics - OP30 or better. I see them pop up on the bay.

My fear isn't cutting the bowl, my fear is the newer one will be too small to replace the old one. Any info???
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-03-22 11:01 PM (#109331 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics


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You can't retro fit one of the new preamps on a bowl that had a rectangular preamp without putting a whole new bowl on the guitar.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-03-23 6:36 AM (#109332 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics


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Go for an Optima.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-03-23 7:09 AM (#109333 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics



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Definitely an Optima. I'm considering that for my '87 as well. It's an excellent preamp, I have it on my CL12 and 1581 and love the sound.
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2007-03-23 7:49 AM (#109334 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics


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Optima.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-03-23 7:53 AM (#109335 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics


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Optima. It's my favorite ovation pre-amp.
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Corvairfan
Posted 2007-03-23 2:29 PM (#109336 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics


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I always liked the Op24+. Tons of volume..way more than the Pro and the mid cut and shape switch worked well.

Sure a tuner and a notch filter would be great. That's the Optima right? Yet the CL's and even Adamas with the Optima sounded worse than the + to my ears. Must be my ears.
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puddnheadwilson
Posted 2007-03-23 11:55 PM (#109337 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics


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So where would I find one of these Optimas? They ever show up on eBay?
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2007-03-24 12:27 AM (#109338 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics
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so the. optima, op24, op24+, opx etc...the rectangular preamps are basically interchangeable for usa ovations?

I have a spare OP24+ I was thinking about swapping with an op24 on a shallow bowl

Glenn
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-03-24 3:43 AM (#109339 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics


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ive think ive got a optima here somewhere...didnt you send me a optima along with that FET-3 dave?? puddin head, if i can find it you can have it...i rarely play plugged in and i hate the looks of those pre's..im more of a 2 knob kinda guy..lol jason
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First Alternate
Posted 2007-03-24 4:36 AM (#109340 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics
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I have the Optima on my 1869 and an Op Pro Studio on my 2079LX. As far as I can tell, it was a case of Ovation saying, "It ain't broke, but let's fix it anyway!"
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Waskel
Posted 2007-03-24 9:05 AM (#109341 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics



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Glenn, they're not exactly 'interchangeable' in that the Optima is a little bigger that the 24. Going from a 24 to an Optima would require some routing.
Trying to go from one of the rectangular pre's to one of the oval ones you would be left with gaps where the corners were.
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pzavislak
Posted 2007-03-24 10:36 AM (#109342 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics


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What can the guys at the factory do? If I have an OP-Pro pre-amp and what to get the VIP, is that possible? What about adding XLR?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-03-24 10:44 AM (#109343 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics


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Any of the new preamps can be substituted for one another. But it's not as simple as just pulling one out and plugging another in. They often require different cans and plugs. But the factory can do that.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-03-24 11:06 AM (#109344 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics



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XLR requires a factory supplied board which contains both the XLR and 1/4" jacks. This plugs into the output jack on the preamp.
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puddnheadwilson
Posted 2007-03-24 1:16 PM (#109345 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics


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Thanks Johnny, I appreciate any help I can get. Let me know if you find it and what you'd want for it.

About the two knobs, yes, I miss my Adamas II an awful lot sometimes. Maybe after the kids leave home, or when my wife turns her back. :) Until then, the 6868 will do.
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Old Tele man
Posted 2007-03-24 5:33 PM (#109346 - in reply to #109330)
Subject: Re: Upgrading to newer electronics


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...is there are viable replacement/upgrade for the preamp assembly in my EA68 Viper?

...I'm not unhappy or dissatisfied, just curious.
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