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Mitchrx
Posted 2007-06-26 10:50 AM (#94559)
Subject: Old Bands


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A few weeks ago the IMAC Theater in Huntington, NY, advertised a 40th Anniversary show of Ten Years After. My initial interest was quickly extinguished when I found out that Alvin Lee is not with the band.

Then today I saw an ad for the Lovin' Spoonful at Tarrytwon Music Hall. I went to the band's website and sure enough it's touring without John Sebastian.

There's probably a bunch of others, but to me this is just plain wrong. A band shouldn't tour under a name that's synonomous with one real talent when that artist is no longer with the band.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-06-26 10:58 AM (#94560 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands



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Entertainment copyright law is complex, difficult to understand, and very non-intuitive.
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cliff
Posted 2007-06-26 11:00 AM (#94561 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands


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Y'mean like when John B. fills-in for me on the occasional TwoManGroup gig??? :D
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Waskel
Posted 2007-06-26 11:22 AM (#94562 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands



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Originally posted by cliff:
Y'mean like when John B. fills-in for me on the occasional TwoManGroup gig??? :D
No, we just refer to that as a temporary upgrade.
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-06-26 11:27 AM (#94563 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands



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A few years back a local bar advertised "Now Appearing...Steppenwolf!!!".
In truth it should have read... "Now Appearing... the guys who hold the rights to the name.... Steppenwolf".
Steppenwolf without John Kay is just another cover band.
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cliff
Posted 2007-06-26 11:47 AM (#94564 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands


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". . No, we just refer to that as a temporary upgrade . ."


Right.
You just made the bottom of next year's "sign-in" sheet . . . (again).
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Waskel
Posted 2007-06-26 11:50 AM (#94565 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands



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At least I'll be on it...(again).
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Phil Wong
Posted 2007-06-26 11:53 AM (#94566 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands


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A Freddie and the Fishsticks reunion tour wouldn't be the same if Brad/Slipkid wasn't there. :p
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cliff
Posted 2007-06-26 12:07 PM (#94567 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands


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no, . . but there'd be a lot more Dressing Room . . .
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-06-26 12:26 PM (#94568 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands



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I'll say it loud and I'll say it proud... A FISHSTICK AM I!!!
Though sharp edged shells do chafe my chest, I'll be one till I die.

I'll don my skirt and clip my bra but I can't help but wonder if...
I had those locks of girly-girl hair... just like that cute guy Cliff!!
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-06-26 8:33 PM (#94569 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands



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crickets...crickets..

Aw come on guys.... you're killing me here.
Eight hours without a single responce.
I thought that was some darn fine poetry and I was hoping for a little positive re-enforcement.
Ya know, with just a little encouragement I might become a famous song writer someday.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-06-26 9:11 PM (#94570 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands



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Some of us WORK!!

Slipkid already mentioned Steppenwolf. (whch rained on my story) I saw them advertised at dumpy wannabee tourist biker bar years ago. (Ocean City, MD)
I was warned that it wasn't worth the price of the beer.

And we all know that Ozzie has tried to sue whoever is in Black Sabbath these days.
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cruster
Posted 2007-06-26 9:41 PM (#94571 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands


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Originally posted by cliff:
no, . . but there'd be a lot more Dressing Room . . .
Dressing room? Where I'm from we usually call it the dining room...that certain people parade around half-clothed in it not withstanding. :p
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cruster
Posted 2007-06-26 9:43 PM (#94572 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands


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Originally posted by Slipkid:
I'll say it loud and I'll say it proud... A FISHSTICK AM I!!!
Though sharp edged shells do chafe my chest, I'll be one till I die.

I'll don my skirt and clip my bra but I can't help but wonder if...
I had those locks of girly-girl hair... just like that cute guy Cliff!!
You remember that commercial where the guy shuts off his computer and says, "I reached the end of the internet"? I think I'm canceling my service tomorrow. :eek:

:p :D
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2007-06-27 9:51 AM (#94573 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands



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I'm waiting for the Fishsticks tour....

As to copyrights and contracts, things happen. I think of John Fogarty and CCR. He was not only not with the band, but forbidden for years from publicly playing the songs HE had composed that made CCR succesful.

Be sober and have a good attorney at hand before signing a contract; right, Mark? (The Fishsticks made need a different kind of legal protection....)
:eek:
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-06-27 9:54 AM (#94574 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands


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Herman's Hermits w/o Peter Noone
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an4340
Posted 2007-06-27 10:16 AM (#94575 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands


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Some bands improve without certain band members ...
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-06-27 10:33 AM (#94576 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands



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Went to see The James Gang without knowing Joe Walsh had just quit the band. No fun that night.

Went to see Three Dog Night a loooong time ago. One of the dogs was in rehab. Couldn't really tell a difference.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-06-27 10:43 AM (#94577 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands



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Originally posted by an4340:
Some bands improve without certain band members ...
Pink Floyd w/o Syd Barrett.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-06-27 11:53 AM (#94578 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands



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Originally posted by Paul Blanchard:
I think of John Fogarty ....., but forbidden for years from publicly playing the songs HE had composed that made CCR succesful.
I think it was more that he refused to play the songs because he was ripped off and made no residuals when they were played.

If I recall, he played for a significant Vietnam Vets event (The Wall/ditch?) and did a speach about putting things behind you before he ripped into Proud Larry...and plays the old songs now.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2007-06-28 10:05 AM (#94579 - in reply to #94559)
Subject: Re: Old Bands



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Maybe that's it; spite always adds flavor to the mix and he never seemed the most humble of guys. I do know that he plays the old songs on his Austin City Limits appearances of late.
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