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Luke1963
Posted 2024-02-07 12:12 PM (#559059)
Subject: Help about two models


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hi everyone I would like to buy an Ovation acoustic guitar but there are many models and it is difficult to choose. A new guitar may not sound like a vintage guitar, conversely a used guitar may be defective. At the moment I have a budget of about $1400 and I have seen two models, one new used, in your opinion which one should I buy? I put the links below.

https://www.tomassone.it/ita/ovation-elite-2078ax-deep-contour-cutaw...

https://piazzostrumenti.it/chitarre-acustiche-usate/89072-ovation-us...
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2024-02-07 12:28 PM (#559060 - in reply to #559059)
Subject: Re: Help about two models


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Welcome Luke,
I have upgraded your membership and moved this to the General Forums where more people have access to guide your decision. Again, Welcome!!
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Luke1963
Posted 2024-02-07 3:10 PM (#559061 - in reply to #559060)
Subject: Re: Help about two models


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Thank you Mr. Ovation!
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2024-02-07 5:46 PM (#559062 - in reply to #559059)
Subject: Re: Help about two models



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It depends on your use and preferences,If you want better electonics the new guitar should have the better preamp if you want the best acoustic sound the 1990 collectors should be a really great guitar,is the collectors a deep bowl it looks like it and those are kind of rare.I would personally go with a used US model over a new korean model,just my preference

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Luke1963
Posted 2024-02-08 1:23 AM (#559064 - in reply to #559062)
Subject: Re: Help about two models


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Thank you so much 2wheeldrummer. I have a question for you. Whats mean deep bowl?
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Luke1963
Posted 2024-02-08 9:33 AM (#559065 - in reply to #559062)
Subject: Re: Help about two models


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According to you 1390$ for the OVATION MOD.373 NAT ED. 1990 is a good price? I don't know the original price... Thank you
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FlySig
Posted 2024-02-08 1:51 PM (#559067 - in reply to #559059)
Subject: Re: Help about two models



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A quick overview: The dates that follow are approximate. Ovation guitars were made in the USA for decades. They were solid top, not laminate, and had a high level of quality. The Celebrity, Applause, and the Matrix (not 100%) were made in Asia. They represent a lower price point and thus not as high end materials or workmanship. Excellent value but not a USA made solid top Ovation.

Then around the year 2001 they introduced the Ovation LX series guitars. Made in the USA, and the kidney shaped preamp. Older guitars had the rectangular preamp or even just one or two knobs. The LX are excellent instruments, and if you are looking to play plugged in then I would look for an LX guitar.

So far, so good. All of those Ovation branded guitars were excellent. The deepest bowl models have a deeper sound, the mid depth bowl is about the same tone as a typical wood box guitar, and the thin body are not very full sounding except when plugged in.

In around 2005 they introduced the Deep Contour body. It is deep, with the back being shaped so it is similar to a flat backed wooden guitar. It sounds pretty much the same as the regular Deep bowl. The advantage is it doesn't try to roll face-up when you play it.

Then about 12 years ago they expanded production in Asia to the Ovation branded instruments. Prior to that you could rely on if the headstock said Ovation it was USA built, and if it said Celebrity or Applause it was Asian made. Now they came out with Ovation branded guitars with slightly different model numbers.

For example, a 6777LX is a USA made LX era guitar. A 6777AX is Asian made and is similar to the LX but with some potentially substantive differences.

Anything with an AX is Asian made.

My opinion is to look for either a new LX USA made instrument (which will be relatively expensive), or a used USA made Ovation. If you plan to play plugged in, the LX models will have better preamps. Older USA made Ovations will be less expensive and can be superb instruments if in good condition.
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Luke1963
Posted 2024-02-08 2:24 PM (#559068 - in reply to #559067)
Subject: Re: Help about two models


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In Italy, unfortunately, we do not have much choice. The only ones that are made in the USA I think are the Adamas but they are very expensive (4500 $). My budget is about 1400-1660 $. Anyway, thank you, you've been very kind.
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Luke1963
Posted 2024-02-08 2:54 PM (#559069 - in reply to #559067)
Subject: Re: Help about two models


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I also found a used Ovation Standard Balladeer 1861, at $750 I think this is a good bargain or do you think the OVATION USA MOD.373 NAT ED. is better. 1990?
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2024-02-08 6:00 PM (#559071 - in reply to #559059)
Subject: Re: Help about two models



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Luke FlySig covered it mostly but there are different bowl depths for different models,originally all Ovations are what we now call deep bowl that was late 60's and 70's,in the early 80's they came out with a shallow bowl which is primarily a stage guitar in my opinion,the 1861 would be a shallow bowl good for on stage but probably thin as an acoustic only,the 1990 is a collectors model they made 2 versions 199s which is a shallow bowl and a deep bowl which is what I think you are looking at.Here is a link to pictures of a shallow bowl 199s http://ovationtribute.com/Acoustic%20Series/Collector%27s/1990_Ovat...
and here is a great site with all kinds of Ovation info http://ovationtribute.com/

What will you primarily use the guitar for plugged in acoustic electric or unplugged playing






Edited by 2wheeldrummer 2024-02-08 6:03 PM
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2024-02-08 11:20 PM (#559073 - in reply to #559059)
Subject: Re: Help about two models


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Maybe this will help regarding bowl depths.....

http://ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=48497&...

Edited by moody, p.i. 2024-02-08 11:21 PM
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Luke1963
Posted 2024-02-09 8:03 AM (#559075 - in reply to #559073)
Subject: Re: Help about two models


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thank you for all these pointers you are giving me. Indeed the 1990 model seems to be a deep bowl. I would still use the guitar acoustically and sometimes electrified.
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Luke1963
Posted 2024-02-10 4:04 AM (#559081 - in reply to #559073)
Subject: Re: Help about two models


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I also found an Ovation USA Adirondack 22 of 50 Limited Acoustic Guitar for $1000 and the owner tells me it cost $3500 but I can't find any information on this guitar... Do you know it?



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Luke1963
Posted 2024-02-10 5:11 AM (#559082 - in reply to #559059)
Subject: Re: Help about two models


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sorry the guitar has already been sold
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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2024-02-10 9:26 AM (#559083 - in reply to #559081)
Subject: Re: Help about two models



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Luke1963 - 2024-02-10 4:04 AM

I also found an Ovation USA Adirondack 22 of 50 Limited Acoustic Guitar for $1000 and the owner tells me it cost $3500 but I can't find any information on this guitar... Do you know it?


That would have been this model a special Legend design should be pretty sweet,good deals go fast so you may have to find something that appeals to you and just go for it.

http://www.lostartvintage.com/Categoryinfo.aspx?categoryid=8&catego...

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Luke1963
Posted 2024-02-11 2:55 AM (#559088 - in reply to #559059)
Subject: Re: Help about two models


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Unfortunately the guitar has already been sold
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