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Location: SoCal | I was looking for info on this guitar and found very little in both my own catalogs and Jerome's site, OvationTribute, and can't find much on the 2006 Glen Campbell Reissue (40th Anniversary). Anybody have anything on them (specifications, etc)? |
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Location: Texas | Like this?
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Location: SoCal | That' cool, but they got the bowl wrong. I think that it's whatever the current (2006) mid depth bowl was. The current torrified top GC is the artist bowl depth. About 1/4" less than the shallow or mid depth.
Anybody have any thoughts on the shallow vs mid depth bowls? I'm too lazy to go looking.... |
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Location: SoCal | In the first description, it lists the bowl as "deep". That's wrong. But in the service/parts sheet is says "shallow". Again, is that the same as mid depth?
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Paul, the 2006 reissue is an ARTIST depth bowl. I own one of these. It is the same as the original 1627 model, and the same as the new torrified model. It was always confusing because in early catalogs this bowl was called the SHALLOW bowl because it was shallower than the full sized bowl.
Then 15 years later the SUPER shallow bowl shows up and everyone is confused. And 15 years after that along comes the MID DEPTH bowl which is deeper than ARTIST but not as deep as DEEP bowl. |
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Location: SoCal | Dave, I'll do a comparison in a couple of weeks. I'm getting my 06 GC RI back. It went out on long term loan back in Dec 2014. I don't remember it being as bright as the GC Torrie with the artist depth bowl. Nor do I remember you GC RI with the shiny bowl being that bright. I'll drive out in the fall and we'll compare all of them.
The Ovation Gallery is down. Is that done?
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Location: Phoenix AZ | moody, p.i. - 2018-07-25 8:28 PM
The Ovation Gallery is down. Is that done?
Trying to fix some issues. It'll be back soon. |
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Location: Texas | "GC RI with the shiny bowl"
What??? When did Ovation make a GC RI with a shiny bowl? Dammit...I missed one. I thought there was the 1627. It ended in the mid 80's. Then you had the 40th...which was a really nice RI of the original Then you had the LTD with the GC sig at the bottom of the fretboard, that Ovation said they released in celebration of Ghost on the Canvas. Then DW released something that they wanted to be a 1627, but didn't know their @$$ from a hole in the ground when tieing it to GC..."Ovation has meticulously hand-crafted a precise recreation of Campbell's iconic “1771” model guitar" There were more inaccuracies in describing what ended up being a nice guitar...which the demand exceeded the stock, I am told. This one was purported to have a shallow bowl...not sure it bore much of a heritage to the 1627, except it had Glen's name on it. I think at NAMM they called it the GC Balladeer... which ended up being the "Glen Campbell Signature Custom Legend" on their website. whatever. They must have NEVER cracked open The History of... So they released the last one this year, proudly stating "Marking the 50th Anniversary of the debut American music icon Glen Campbell’s signature “1627”", simply overlooking that their company, Ovation, produced the 1627 beginning in the mid-70's. (((they would have gotten closer with the 1127)) But...they got the model right this time and the bowl went to a mid depth...which is probably closer to the artist bowl, than the shallow. The only two shiny bowl RI that Ovation did, to my knowledge was the Balladeer and the Josh White. I would love to know if there was another.
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Location: SoCal | It was a custom order.....
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Location: Texas | "It was a custom order..... " Wow! That would be the perfect 1627! A deep shiny bowl. It has to be, acoustically, if not visually, unbeatable. |
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Location: SoCal | The Ovation Gallery is down right now but when it comes back up, you can see and read about the guitar. Not a deep bowl. Dave says it's an artist depth bowl, but I remember it as a mid depth or shallow bowl (not deep or ssb) of the day (2006). I'll know for certain in a couple of weeks when I get mine back. But Dave had other touches done to his custom order that make it outstanding... |
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Location: SoCal | My Legend with a torrified addy top (A braced) is probably as close to a modern GCDB as I'll ever get. |
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Location: Jet City | jay - 2018-07-26 7:56 AM .... Then DW released something that they wanted to be a 1627, but didn't know their @$$ from a hole in the ground when tieing it to GC..."Ovation has meticulously hand-crafted a precise recreation of Campbell's iconic “1771” model guitar" There were more inaccuracies in describing what ended up being a nice guitar... I think there may have been some issues with the writing of the article itself, definately some confusion. First, there have been 4 'Glen Campbell' models released by DW. They mention 2 'mid-priced models' at the bottom. The one in the picture is actually one of those Korean models, the 1627VL-4GC. The 1771VL-1GC model they reference is a different one, a model that actually has zero to do with Glen, but it has his name on it (pictured below). There has been two USA Glen Campbell models released by DW. One being the torrified topped one that Al has the last of. Probably my favorite reissue, but it has an X bracing not true to the original... but so what, it sounds better. The first reissue was a very nice version, very much like he actual Glen Campbell, and accurately named a 1627GC-4. THESE were the ones where the demand exceeded the stock and were very similar to the previous USA 40th reissues (I used to have #10 in the original 40th run, pictured below). Red Blanket sold the very last one of these to a local New Hartford resident named Karl, who I believe you know from the GC forums Jay. The first USA Models were WAY underpriced (And Karl got an absolutely ridiculous deal). They were losing money on them, so they cancelled the sku, changed it up with the torrified top and corrected depth Artist/shallow bowl, and put it at a price point they didn't lose money on. moody, p.i. - 2018-07-26 12:34 PM My Legend with a torrified addy top (A braced) is probably as close to a modern GCDB as I'll ever get. Um... the original wasn't A braced I don't think. Wasn't it one of the VT versions? But I think that an A braced version like yours would be the awesomest!
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Location: Canada | My head is spinning with all these flavors of GC tribute guitars. This article does not help much either:
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Custom order from Lost Art Vintage (2006)
o 1127-X, acoustic only
o AAA Sitka top, X-Braced
o Shiny ARTIST depth bowl
o INLAID rosette
o 5 point bridge
o GC initials at 12th fret
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Location: Texas | Dave...what a beautiful guitar! What a great idea and the 12th inlay is tremendous. What was the bracing?
d'ovation...You're right...I will put that on my to do list!
Damon...Yes, I sent Karl your way. Yeah, I think DW could have done better on their pressers and pr offerings for their GC guitars. Or not...they seemed to sell them all. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I think it's X braced. Or maybe A. I forget and the guitar is not with me this summer. |
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Location: SoCal | Dave, yours, like the rest of the 40th reissues was A braced. And your guitar is a mid depth bowl. It is not an artist bowl. I'll text you over some pictures of your torrified GC so you can see the difference. When I get back my 40th GC RI, I'll shoot some side by side pics. Who knows, maybe you're right and they'll be the same.
The original GC Artists were VT braced. Charlie got real hot on that pattern. I hated it as it had little bass. By about 73, Ovation was playing with the A bracing and in 74 it went on the new Custom Legends. By the late 70's, early 80's, they were transitioning them onto the regular Legends and the GC Artists, so that by the early 80's, those all had A bracing. The 40th GC RI's were very much like the early 80's Glen Campbells. Less like the 70's GC's. And while the GC's with the A bracing didn't have a lot of balls, the sound was very good. Good bass, mids and highs. In my opinion, the best of the GC's.
If anything ever happens to the top of my GCRI, I'll talk with Dan Savage about putting on a torrified top. Now THAT would be a killer guitar.......
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Location: Phoenix AZ | You might be right Paul. I have the original factory worksheet on it and can check. As I recall at the time the instructions were to build the guitar as per the '06 GC RI but with the following modifications from the Josh White RI 1) JW rosette, 2) JW bridge and 3) JW bowl cut down to artist depth. |
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Location: SoCal | Damon, I know the bracing on the original GC's as well as the reissues. I was just stating that my Legend was A braced in order to be clear. I don't hear a tremendous difference between the X and A bracing. I used to play my 87C (A braced) next to Bobbo's 07C (X braced) and they were very similar. |
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| I have the Namm Show Ovation Custom Shop natural finish Glen Campbell guitar that was on display at the winter show, the first one built when DW reissued that model and premiered it there. This was when Bill Xavier was working for Ovation. Cal Campbell is shown holding this guitar at Namm promoting it. |
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Location: SoCal | Got my 40th Anniversary GC back today. It sounds just like I remember it. Wonderful tone, not a lot of volume, but that tone...... It's a mid depth bowl. You can see the difference next to that last reissue of the GC Artist bowl. And you can hear the difference. An A braced mid-depth bowl, has, to my ears, the kind of tone that I really like.
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