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innerman
Posted 2007-11-01 10:35 AM (#76331 - in reply to #76306)
Subject: Re: I heard the news today... oh boy.


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Hey Al, do you have any Limited Edition OFC Strats in Autumn Burst yet?
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PEZ
Posted 2007-11-01 11:14 AM (#76332 - in reply to #76306)
Subject: Re: I heard the news today... oh boy.



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Me too, while it was announced in 2001 a move like that had to have been planned long before.
Likily years before.

Also one thing that happened almost right away was customer service contact left Westerly.
I also don't want that to happen.


Fenders customer serve is fair to awefull.
When I ordered the Set-neck custom shop Strat
in 1993 I was told it would 6 months.
It was $1800 retail then paid up front.
I was running out of patience 18 months later
and still no guitar. Dealer could not get any info. He was losing his dealership because of a new minimuim order requirements when Guitar Center moved to Manchester. Bellers had been a Fender dealer from almost day one. No one could give any answers to Spike Beller. I could not get any answers.
Call center said no I talk to custom shop.
Well 3 weeks later I got a direct number to
the custom shop. (I used manage the bar area of West Hartford Ct Agora Ballroom) I know lots of people in the business. I got a direct number by other means. All I wanted to know is
1) Why was this taking so long
2) When would it be ready.
Whoever answered the phone at custom shop said
"If Clapton waits so do you" and hung up on me.
6 months after that my guitar was delivered to Joes Guitars in Wallingford. I open the case
and see I got white knobs and pickups.
I ordered black.

I did not buy ANY Fender product for
for 10 years after that. No picks no polish..nothing.
Every player that oogled the guitar
heard what happened.
I don't know if it is any better now.
I finnally bought a Fender Passport 150 in
2005. If the Peavy Portabable PA was instock
I would have bought that instead.
I also bought Champion 600 this year.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-11-01 12:14 PM (#76333 - in reply to #76306)
Subject: Re: I heard the news today... oh boy.


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http://www.musictrades.com/

Kinda supports what I've been saying. Let's wait and see what happens before we start passing judgment.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-11-01 2:52 PM (#76334 - in reply to #76306)
Subject: Re: I heard the news today... oh boy.


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Although I have read many pieces like that over the years and been involved in a few, this one may be one of the very few that at least for the longer "short-term" of a few years, may bode very well for everyone involved.

Without the BS of the warm fuzzy piece there are some facts.
[list]
[*]Fender is a Music company, buying a music company that gives them a bunch of somethings (distro and instrument options) they don't have now.
[*]Unlike other acquisitions, as stated, the KMC lines don't need to be "Fenderized" to sell. Fender isn't "bailing out" KMC, it's almost like they are "buying into" KMC.
[*]We have sat on this board and debated the marketing and artist relation practices of KMC since the inception of this website. Fender has a long history of loyal and respected endorsements that grows daily and seemingly good marketing.
[*]As stated in the article on Music Trades, there is not a lot of "competitive" products involved. The closest they really get are the Takamine guitars, but that's not really that close either as they point out. Hamer, GenzBenz, Ovation, Adamas are all products that stand on their own and don't compete with Fender offerings on the whole.
[/list]

So bottom line, as has been said, it's all speculation. But at least for now, it looks pretty good for everyone involved.. at least from the outside looking in.
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-11-01 3:12 PM (#76335 - in reply to #76306)
Subject: Re: I heard the news today... oh boy.



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I also like this quote:
Janopaul added, “At Fender we view ourselves as stewards of great brands.
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Waskel
Posted 2007-11-01 3:15 PM (#76336 - in reply to #76306)
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Good points, Miles.
Would have been prettier if HTML was turned on...
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-11-01 4:55 PM (#76337 - in reply to #76306)
Subject: Re: I heard the news today... oh boy.


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Thanks Waskel :( That's what I get for typing before I'm awake... but... I fixed it. :)
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Waskel
Posted 2007-11-02 12:09 AM (#76338 - in reply to #76306)
Subject: Re: I heard the news today... oh boy.



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Sure you did. Because you can go back hours later and fix your mistakes, unlike those of us less privileged... :rolleyes: :p
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-11-02 2:41 AM (#76339 - in reply to #76306)
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia
I'm surprised you haven't found a decent hack yet!
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