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Damon67
Posted 2011-01-17 12:24 PM (#357641 - in reply to #357616)
Subject: Re: My "New" Tornado…



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Standing, Most all have the wood spacers.

Miles, I'm pretty sure it's the original. It's one of the first ones, actually it's one of the first Ovations period according to the serial number.

You'll also notice the straight end on my fretboard. The Tornados I've seen from this period are pretty much the same. No blocks, flat end on fretboard, no logo. Here's another example off g-base:



And another:

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CrimsonLake
Posted 2011-01-17 1:01 PM (#357642 - in reply to #357616)
Subject: Re: My "New" Tornado…


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Here's mine:



[list]
[*]Scrolled fingerboard
[*]Wooden blocks under pickguard
[*]Etched pickguard
[*]Early serial # Bxxx
[*]Bigsby Trem Bar
[*]No cutout for pup adjustment screw
[/list]
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Gallerinski
Posted 2011-01-17 1:44 PM (#357643 - in reply to #357616)
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First tornados and hurricanes had squared off fretboards and no logo on the pickguard. Then came the logo and finally the cutouts for the pu adjustment screw. Then later they had to reshape the pickguard for the longer neck version and relocated pu locations.

Serial numbers did not start consecutively with the acoustics. I owned tornado number 012 which certainly was not the 12th guitar ovation ever made. The electrics started off their own serials about 12 months out of synch with the acoustics. So yes, there are electrics and acoustics with exactly the same number. At some point the electrics jumped a whole bunch of numbers so that they could share the same sequence with the acoustics.
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Damon67
Posted 2011-01-17 5:29 PM (#357644 - in reply to #357616)
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Well there we go. I suppose it's safe to say that the pre-letter serials are still among the first thousand or so O's?
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standing
Posted 2011-01-29 2:33 AM (#357645 - in reply to #357616)
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I removed my Tornado pick guard tonight to make a modification, so I took a quick photo to illustrate the wood blocks discussed earlier in this thread.



I removed those two blocks (intact) and replaced them with shallower homemade versions to lower the pickguard.

I'm extremely happy with the setup now, but for future reference, would anyone like to explain exactly what/how the neck adjustment (under the neck plate near the neck bolts) on the Tornado works? Does it raise and lower the neck/fretboard parallel to the body or does it adjust the neck angle, or what?
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2011-01-29 5:40 AM (#357646 - in reply to #357616)
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neck angle
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standing
Posted 2011-01-29 3:56 PM (#357647 - in reply to #357616)
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standing
Posted 2011-01-29 4:01 PM (#357648 - in reply to #357616)
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Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
neck angle
Thanks Miles!

I didn't want to experiment if it wasn't necessary, especially since I'm so happy with it the way I've got it set-up right now…

…but it's definitely good to know for future reference. Do you need to loosen the neck bolts before fiddling with the neck angle adjustment?
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Bluebird
Posted 2011-01-30 1:22 PM (#357649 - in reply to #357616)
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Standing;

Yes, you have to loosen the bolts, more so the two closest to the end of the neck.
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kitmann
Posted 2011-01-31 12:05 AM (#357650 - in reply to #357616)
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Hey Standing I'l trade you 1 ice storm, 3 really nice snow storms, 1 large gail of wind and a used Oscar Schmidt for the Tornado :D
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kitmann
Posted 2011-01-31 12:07 AM (#357651 - in reply to #357616)
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Ok I'll even throw in a few bent trees, you might have to straighten out a little but they should work. :D :D
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standing
Posted 2011-01-31 1:27 AM (#357652 - in reply to #357616)
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Originally posted by kitmann:
Hey Standing I'l trade you 1 ice storm, 3 really nice snow storms, 1 large gail of wind and a used Oscar Schmidt for the Tornado :D
Nice try kitmann, but:

A. I know you'd never really cut loose the Bluesman so nonchalantly.

B. I've really bonded with the Tornado, so this one's gonna remain a Texas Storm…

;)
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kitmann
Posted 2011-01-31 12:45 PM (#357653 - in reply to #357616)
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Your right I won't give up my Bluesman but it was fun thinking about it. Those Texas Storms can be rough I've heard so take care of her and she'll take care of you. Congrats brother. :)
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bartidge
Posted 2016-01-19 11:22 AM (#520478 - in reply to #357616)
Subject: RE: My "New" Tornado…


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standing - 2011-01-13 2:39 AM

The only other thing I might want to do to it is adjust (or remove) the pick-guard. It's pretty high and comes closer to the high E-string than I'd prefer, and it's not as simple to adjust as some other semi-hollow bodies. I haven't even attempted to remove it yet, but it looks like it's screwed (and hopefully not glued) into two small blocks of wood. I can probably save those (since they're original) and make substitutes that better position the pg. Anyone have any experience with that, or have the same situation with the pick-guard on a Tornado?


Bumping this necro as I have similar pickguard question...

I just recently acquired an Eclipse in very good shape:



I, too, am not happy with the height of the pickguard and want to lower it.

It would appear mine as two blocks of angled wood that the pickguard sits on (and screw go into this).

I am also guessing the wood blocks may be glued to the surface.

I'd like to drop the pickguard about 1/4".

Has anyone else attempted lowering their storm series pickguard similarly and what did you find with trying to remove the blocks if so?

@standing , did you have to do anything special to get the underblocks off on your tornado? Also, who much did you lower it with the new fabbed blocks?

Thx.

Chris



Edited by bartidge 2016-01-19 11:32 AM
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Damon67
Posted 2016-01-19 12:41 PM (#520481 - in reply to #520478)
Subject: RE: My "New" Tornado…



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bartidge - 2016-01-19 9:22 AM

I am also guessing the wood blocks may be glued to the surface.

 

Have you tried to remove the pickguard? It's an easy thing to do. I don't believe they're glued.

FWIW, My Tornado is very old and they did not have wood blocks under the old ones. The top sits on the pickup rings, and the bottom rests on the guitar body. The pickguard is screwed directly into the body without the wood spacers. I'm pretty sure that's how the old original ones were done, so it shouldn't be too much of a job to change yours. Just whittle those down to what you like/want.

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ProfessorBB
Posted 2016-01-19 1:36 PM (#520487 - in reply to #357616)
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Even Damon's demo pics are works of art!
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bartidge
Posted 2016-01-19 4:07 PM (#520489 - in reply to #520481)
Subject: RE: My "New" Tornado…


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Damon67 - 2016-01-19 1:41 PM

bartidge - 2016-01-19 9:22 AM

I am also guessing the wood blocks may be glued to the surface.

 

Have you tried to remove the pickguard? It's an easy thing to do. I don't believe they're glued.

FWIW, My Tornado is very old and they did not have wood blocks under the old ones. The top sits on the pickup rings, and the bottom rests on the guitar body. The pickguard is screwed directly into the body without the wood spacers. I'm pretty sure that's how the old original ones were done, so it shouldn't be too much of a job to change yours. Just whittle those down to what you like/want.



I haven't yet but I will give it a try...

Just wanted to make sure I wasn't in for some unforseen issues first.

I have a scratchy volume pot as well, so going to DetoxIt that this weekend.

Thx.
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standing
Posted 2016-01-20 4:39 PM (#520511 - in reply to #357616)
Subject: Re: My "New" Tornado…



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It's been a while (looks like 5 years, based on this thread), but as near as I can recall, the pickguard came off with no problems, and the wood risers were easy to remove from the underside of the pickguard. I think the wood blocks may have originally been glued to the underside of the pickguard, (definitely NOT to the guitar body) but, regardless, that glue had long since dried out (and even if it was still holding, it would be simple to razor off the blocks.) The original wood spacers could easily have been trimmed lower, but I chose to save them as-is and replaced them with my own homemade shallower spacers. (I just cut them out of some spare soft wood.) I didn't even bother painting them, since they are basically invisible with the pickguard so close to the guitar body. With my modification, the bottom of the pickguard is now about 1/8" above the body of the guitar. (It was a major improvement, imo.)
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2016-01-21 1:34 AM (#520517 - in reply to #357616)
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I meant to respond to this a few days ago... actually thought I did... Anyway.. excellent job Standing. I have also used thick nylon washers in the past. In fact I have a Thunderhead that I'm working on and will be giving the owner the option of the blocks or just the washers.
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