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cjdoors
Posted 2015-04-15 12:09 AM (#508865)
Subject: Thunderhead(?) project for sale on Goodwill


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Location: SoCal
Longtime lurker and this forum recently helped me gather enough information to purchase a 5869-5p so hoping this in turn helps someone here.

There is what I believe is a Thunderhead in need of a resto or for usable for parts on shop Goodwill. Currently in the low $300's with case which seems like a good deal. Missing a few parts at a minimum. I wouldn't post if I thought it would hurt the value of Wolfie's sale and I would say it may help it give the huge difference in condition between them. Hopefully no one here is secretly watching it and cursing me for bringing attention to it. Anyway...

Image:
http://images.shopgoodwill.com/8/4-9-2015/866664930134122gs.JPG

Listing:
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions/Ovation-Electric-Guitar-w-Case...

Would love to know if someone ends up with it and/or what it is, etc. should be interesting discussion based on prior goodwill topics.

Thanks,

Joe
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2015-04-15 12:47 AM (#508866 - in reply to #508865)
Subject: Re: Thunderhead(?) project for sale on Goodwill


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It is a Tornado and while it looks like someone has messed with the electronics (toggle missing) it's actually in not bad shape and the price is responable considering the condition. I've never seen one in Black so it could be a refinish. It's hard to tell from the pictures. I have moved this into the General forum as it certainly is interesting. While we don't generally just post "deals from around the web" but this is certainly worthy of notice.
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cjdoors
Posted 2015-04-15 4:20 PM (#508891 - in reply to #508865)
Subject: Re: Thunderhead(?) project for sale on Goodwill


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Thanks for the addition. I thought it noteworthy based on prior postings of similar topics that had lots of comments and discussion. Glad you agree and hope it helps someone / finds the love and care it deserves.
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That New Guy
Posted 2015-04-17 1:45 AM (#508932 - in reply to #508865)
Subject: Re: Thunderhead(?) project for sale on Goodwill


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Well, this post is funny. Look, it's an auction site, so people that are on it should be on it and there's a reason you bid to win untested guitars with crappy photos and hope they aren't trash. The guitar went for way more than a factory 2 is worth. I'd wager that the person with 2 posts and both of them mentioning the same instrument is a plant. Yay.

That guitar was maybe worth 300 when I first won it at more than 650, plus more than 50 for shipping and handling. On inspection, that instrument was misrepresented the first time around so they refunded my money, and they put it for sale again without noting the flaws (using flaws as a generous term for crap) I pointed out to them. I guess the price just got jacked again on it. It sold for more than 650. Sad. It's busted up and burned like a toad in the sun. The finish is truly ruined.

I support the idea of linking to auctions where the condition is described fully and the instrument tested, but on goodwill at 34 purchases in 4 years I'm at about 20 percent instruments in decent shape and 80 percent worthless and misrepresented instruments that I must scavenge and sell part from to keep my wife from leaving me. Since we don't get to try them out beforehand, they come in fret worn, neck ruint, bent and useless. Just think about it next time you alert people, or next time some new poster comes on jacking a broken guitar like a teenager's penis in a Denny's parking lot. All it does is inflate the price on an instrument that few or none of us can attest to in playability.

I'm a new guy, here, for sure. But I'm not new to this world.

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Standingovation
Posted 2015-04-17 9:01 AM (#508935 - in reply to #508865)
Subject: Re: Thunderhead(?) project for sale on Goodwill



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Goodwill is not an auction house of usable items. People donate their stuff to Goodwill because they have determined in their own mind that it is worthless or at least not worth the effort to dispose of in any other way. I am all for Goodwill reselling and using the profits for good intentions. But you need to be aware that you are buying something that others have already determined is worthless.
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jay
Posted 2015-04-17 9:19 AM (#508936 - in reply to #508932)
Subject: Re: Thunderhead(?) project for sale on Goodwill



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Location: Texas

"jacking a broken guitar like a teenager's penis in a Denny's parking lot"

Dammit! We didnt have a Dennys where I grew up.

The only thing I have ever scored from the Goodwill site is a Dr. Conant dread. Got it for 15 bucks, with shipping.

It's Goodwill.  I think you have to approach it from this perspective. The items are donataions. Which means instead of taking it out to the dumpster in the backyard, the owner took it to the Goodwill dumpster to get something for nothing...a tax writeoff. Garage sale items that were unwanted by the owner and the garage sale crowd. Maybe there is a diamond in the rough, but I bet it is rare.

And the support base for the auction is probably not what you are use to on eBay. Goodwill employs a lot of folks that are unable to get jobs elsewhere due to handicaps. You gotta admire them for offering opportunities and  support for the needy in a lot of communities...so a big thumbs up there.

 

 



Edited by jay 2015-04-17 9:25 AM
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MarkM
Posted 2015-05-01 10:41 PM (#509737 - in reply to #508935)
Subject: Re: Thunderhead(?) project for sale on Goodwill


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Location: SF Bay area, California
Standingovation - 2015-04-17 9:01 AM

Goodwill is not an auction house of usable items. People donate their stuff to Goodwill because they have determined in their own mind that it is worthless or at least not worth the effort to dispose of in any other way. ... But you need to be aware that you are buying something that others have already determined is worthless.


Too simplistic to be true.

I've bought in the last year 3 guitars, cameras, GPS units, stereo receivers, motorcycle boots, motorcycle helmets from the Goodwill website.

They have universally poor photography, often unfocused, broadcast in LOW resolution, list unhelpful information, and omit basic information (helmet size? they'll note that it is 13 long, 11 wide, 10" high!)

However, I have often been able to navigate that and determine an identification and likely value that made bidding worth my while. Where that is hard for others, I've used it to my advantage.

The guitars have all arrived undamaged, though the Ovation Celebrity Classical was FRIGHTFULLY badly packed.
I think my price (including shipping) was $40-45 each for the Celebrity, a Tacoma Olympia 3/4 size acoustic, and an SX (Korean) 3/4 size 'strat'.

I've been broke in 2015. I would have loved the 70's Folklore that sold in the $three-hundreds a couple of months ago.

Mark
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2015-05-02 9:58 AM (#509750 - in reply to #508865)
Subject: Re: Thunderhead(?) project for sale on Goodwill


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Location: Hot Springs, S.D.
They sell from Goodwills all over the country. Some of them have people on staff who know guitars and some don't. If you see an item early enough to ask questions you can get better info and detailed pictures from some of them. Others don't cooperate at all. They REFUSE to do away with packing peanuts though!
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