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| amosmoses - 2015-03-12 11:16 PM crazy Jay, I saw that guitar on craigslist not too long ago. I'm not sure if it signifies anything or not (e.g., heat, moisture?) but look at how the label is curled up inside the case. I would most definitely want to look it over (actually, look it under) with a bright light and an extension mirror inside the body . . . |
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Location: Texas | Hmmm...all I see is the shadow from the fretboard...but the $ makes you wonder what gives...other than, in the past year, I have seen a lot of good O's go silly cheap. I picked up a mint, if not new 1777LX for 350 shipped for my boy 6 months ago. Looks like it had never left the case. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | If you wanna find stuff that will break your heart or piss you off...
Go looking through SOLD listings in eBay.
You can see that Classical 1613 that went for less than $375, and that 1627 GC that went for less than $300. You never know when you will see that bargain.
My GCXT cost me $299.
My 6774 cost $249.
My 1114 cost $252 with shipping and case.
My first Orange Flamer cost me $300 (and sold for $777).
These prices don't mean that Folklores or Flame T's are not worth much.
It just means that the seller was broke and it was a buyers' market.
Which is what is happening nowadays, which is why I ain't listing on eBay at this moment.
I don't know if any of this is helping BanjoJ decide on a preamp... 
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | arthurseery - 2015-03-13 6:44 PM
I don't know if any of this is helping BanjoJ decide on a preamp...
Probably not OMA, but its all good fun.
I remember you making a post a while back about putting in an OP-30, I think, for busking. If so, why did you choose that particular preamp?
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | I like OP-30 preamps because they have a more powerful output, out of the cable.
I also like the three little buttons (EQ in/out, Mid-Shift, Pre-Shape).
I use a battery-powered Roland CubeStreet and the OP-30 is louder than the OP-Pro.
That might not matter as much when plugged-into house current.
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Location: Jet City | Instead of cutting into the bowl you could use an external preamp/pedal like a Boss AD8 or Fishman Platinum or Aura
I usually have most my settings flat on the guitar and it runs through my Roland AC60 to shape the sound before running into the mixer. The Boss AD8 is roughly the exact same thing minus a power amp and speakers. I rarely use my AC60 on it's own so I've contemplated streamlining my setup with the Boss. The Fishman stuff looks good too, I just am unfamiliar. |
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | Thanks OMA. I'll keep an eye out for Op-30s as well as Op-pros.
I currently don't do any busking, but that may change.
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Location: Jet City | Besides, you'll have to cut a hole, and then plug the hole from the old knob. I upgraded to the OP50 on the 1667 because the stacked knobs were in the waist. There was already a hole there, so we just made it bigger to accommodate the new preamp (when I say 'we', I really mean MWoody). There were no leftover holes to plug up. I don't know that I would have upgraded it had the knob placement been like your 1614 |
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | damon67 - 2015-03-14 8:16 AM
Besides, you'll have to cut a hole, and then plug the hole from the old knob. I upgraded to the OP50 on the 1667 because the stacked knobs were in the waist. There was already a hole there, so we just made it bigger to accommodate the new preamp (when I say 'we', I really mean MWoody). There were no leftover holes to plug up. I don't know that I would have upgraded it had the knob placement been like your 1614
Thanks Damon. If I do it, then I'll probably leave the old knob in place. Cutting the hole for the new pre-amp won't be a problem for me, as I'm pretty competent with that sort of stuff.
But I'm still undecided on doing it, or should I just wait for a 6774. I think I'll just see what comes up. I'm in no real hurry.
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Location: Jet City | Did you check with Al? I thought he had an LX in his shop |
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | Thanks for the tip Damon.
I just had a look on Al's website, and you're right there is a 2773LX listed. It has a 1 3/4" nut, and I'm after a 1 7/8".
If I were to go for a 1 3/4", then I'd open up my model preference beyond Folklores. I'll keep looking and thinking.
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Location: Jet City | I went with my own advise and picked up an AD8 today. I've been wanting one. |
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | damon67 - 2015-03-14 6:09 PM
I went with my own advise and picked up an AD8 today. I've been wanting one.
Please excuse my ignorance, but I had to Google AD8.
According to the Washington University AD8 is a dementia screening test. So how did you go? ;-)
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| Banjo, I have received my Folklore back from Ovation with the OP Pro Studio installed. It is simply phenomenal -- best pre-amp I've ever played on an Ovation. I play it through the battery-powered Crate Limo (if any members use this portable PA, I have a great improvement for it. Let me know if interested.). Note the addition of "Studio" to the name -- it's different from an OP Pro. I would highly recommend it -- so much so that I'm giving some thought to putting one into the '97 Collector's Series that I have and keeping it -- that would make a sweet little combination. Much better than the one-off and gimmicky "finger-sliding volume control" that was standard on that guitar. I've included a description of the pre-amp for you below . . .
http://www.ovationguitars.com/accessories/preamps/op-pro-studio-pre...
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | Thanks Reasley.
I have the OpPro Studio in two of my guitars, and quite like its performance.
I'll keep an eye out for one.
Enjoy your new 1114 OpPro Studio!
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| I know that this will be sacrilegious for some Ovation owners, but I just left my guitar tech's shop and was showing him the Seagull Artist Peppino Signature that I just purchased that has the QII system -- which has an USP and an in-body mike that you can dial in. The sound is quite incredible. Anyway, he told me that he can purchase this system for $219 USD and I am seriously thinking of putting it in one of my other 1614s that has the old VT only preamp. If you have not heard these things, you really should give them a listen. Go to YouTube and type in "Peppino review" and click on the 3:27 video at the top. Listen to the tail end of the clip where he is playing it in the empty nightclub -- the sound just blew me away and mine sounds just like that. |
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | It sounds pretty impressive on the Youtube review.
I'll look into it, thanks Reasley.
An Australian guitar manufacturer are doing something similar with their top-end models. They have an AP5-Pro pickup, which has both piezo and a mic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LxomE28MlM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XULpXqmz2Hg
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| Just listened to both videos. I love the understated selling of the designer: "I think you oughta have a listen to it," "I think you'll think it's pretty good." As compared to the typical American puffery in ads: "Greatest thing ever!," etc.
What I didn't understand on the video demonstration is that the piezo sounded like the mike and the mike sounded like the piezo. Do you think the guitar shop sales guy had them backwards? Also, the mike was much softer (unless he had turned the volume down). |
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | I couldn't say if the sales guy had it backwards. But I think that I'll go and check them out. The music store where that was filmed is only a few minutes from where I live.
I've been playing around with using a mic in front of my guitar as well as the internal pickup, and like the sound that I'm getting. So having the internal mic would be nice.
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Location: Canberra, Australia | BanjoJ - 2015-03-18 3:40 PM
The music store where that was filmed is only a few minutes from where I live.
That particular music store is the only one in town that stocks Ovations, even if all they currently carry are Celebrities.
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Preamp Upgrade for 1982 Folklore 1614
