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1997 Collector's Series (parlor) -- What to Do?

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Reasley
Posted 2015-02-04 8:24 PM (#505332)
Subject: 1997 Collector's Series (parlor) -- What to Do?


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Good evening --

I have a pristine 1997 Collector's Series (the smaller-bodied "parlor" guitar) that I will probably sell but I wanted to first get the collective wisdom of the list about what to do first. The TS electronics don't work, and I have asked John Budny about it, so below are my options. I am asking you guys which path that you would choose:

1) Sell it as is and let the buyer decide

2) Replace both electronic boards and maintain its "collector status" Before selling.

3) Replace the TS system with an OP Pro Studio before selling.

4) List it with new electronics included and to be installed at Ovation before delivery, buyer's choice, and shipped directly from Ovation to new owner.

Note that either electronic option is the same price.

Thanks in advance for your help!

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FlySig
Posted 2015-02-04 8:59 PM (#505334 - in reply to #505332)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collector's Series (parlor) -- What to Do?



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I'd offer the range of choices along with the price you want for each. Some buyers may not care about plugging in and would be happy to get it cheaper. I can also see some wanting to preserve the original configuration, while others might want the Studio preamp.
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Patch
Posted 2015-02-05 7:43 AM (#505354 - in reply to #505332)
Subject: RE: 1997 Collector's Series (parlor) -- What to Do?



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Personally, I just wish I could by it.

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iglupickin
Posted 2015-02-05 8:05 AM (#505356 - in reply to #505332)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collector's Series (parlor) -- What to Do?


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If there is enough margin to make the effort to fix it so its 100% original go for it. If not, sell as is. I'm sure many on this forum who want it 100% would love to take on the process to fix it as many discussions surround someone bringing those Ovations back to original! It's not only a sense of pride in doing it, its the satisfaction of adding another to the stable! I look for occasional fixer-uppers and enjoy the satisfaction of going thru it myself knowing its all there when done! But that's just me! I would sell and let the buyer decide. If that one piece doesn't work and the sources are there for the parts, let the buyer go thru the process and get the enjoyment out of it.
Gary
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-02-05 10:41 AM (#505359 - in reply to #505332)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collector's Series (parlor) -- What to Do?


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The preamp in those is a cool novelty, although mine doesn't work very well. I'd knock what you would spend off the price and let the buyer decide what to do with it. That way you won't eliminate potential buyers who want it original or those who don't want the preamp you chose.
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Jim E
Posted 2015-02-05 11:53 PM (#505383 - in reply to #505332)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collector's Series (parlor) -- What to Do?



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Richard,
Is this one the standard or the wide neck version? By the way, we share the same last name.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2015-02-05 11:59 PM (#505384 - in reply to #505332)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collector's Series (parlor) -- What to Do?



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I'd sell it as is. Several reasons. The cost to the buyer to fix it up, will be the same as it is to you. Some buyers may be put off by the choice you make, and some buyers would prefer to have a cheaper guitar with electronics that don't work. Some buyers may prefer to dissect the electronics themselves and try to repair it. Finally, some buyers will hit their price point near the "as is" price point, even though they may prefer to fix it, when they have the spare cash.
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Slipkid
Posted 2015-02-06 7:14 AM (#505387 - in reply to #505332)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collector's Series (parlor) -- What to Do?



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Agreed.... sell as is and include in your sales pitch the options the buyer has to choose from.
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Reasley
Posted 2015-02-08 12:45 AM (#505434 - in reply to #505359)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collector's Series (parlor) -- What to Do?


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Mark in Boise - 2015-02-05 10:41 AM The preamp in those is a cool novelty, although mine doesn't work very well. I'd knock what you would spend off the price and let the buyer decide what to do with it. That way you won't eliminate potential buyers who want it original or those who don't want the preamp you chose.

Mark, that is very good to know (that your original doesn't work well). This may help you: here is what I suspect may be wrong with it. I have removed the two electronic boards, following the factory manual procedure. The "sensor area" of the touch part of that flex board was caked with dirt over a couple of the "buttons". I suspect that, as time goes by, dirt makes its way in via the little slots to adjust the volume and this impedes performance. That part is $190 from Ovation by the way. I'm going to carefully clean mine and re-test it for function.

The only other part in there that would likely fail is the little square circuit board that is held in place by the jack at the tail end of the guitar that is soldered to the board. That board has three capacitors and knowing that those are the most common failure components of circuit boards, I'm going to replace them on principle Befor I test the flex board after cleaning.

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Reasley
Posted 2015-02-08 12:52 AM (#505435 - in reply to #505383)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collector's Series (parlor) -- What to Do?


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Jim E - 2015-02-05 11:53 PM Richard, Is this one the standard or the wide neck version? By the way, we share the same last name.

Jim, it is the 1 & 11/16" neck. Here's the weird thing about it, though: I need the wide necks of the 1114/1614 or the 6774 that I have but I don't have a problem playing the '97 Collector's Series neck at all. It must have a different neck profile -- that's all I can figure. Related, though the 1114s and the 1614s are much heavier guitars with "clunkier" necks than the 6774, I play them MUCH better than the 6774, with a thinner and/or different profile.

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twistedlim
Posted 2015-02-16 7:29 AM (#505705 - in reply to #505332)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collector's Series (parlor) -- What to Do?


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Brad wants it!
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